M22B: I got really good at reasoning him out of his fits. Also, I would never help unless he asked me to OR unless we had somewhere to be and we were late. Multiple warnings helped him to let go and allow me to do it in the latter case.

If he had really wanted to tie his shoes, he'd have probably fought me harder. Since I was requiring that he try to do it whether he wanted to or not, he wasn't as invested. It was sort of a judo move, I think. I used his own natural tendencies against him. wink

Congrats on getting DS8 into the school you wanted! That's great!

Kriston