Originally Posted by chay
I'm not in the U.S. so I have little knowledge of your system admissions requirements. Since there have been a number of references to raising admission standards I'm curious, what are the requirements for a mid level college? (I'm not talking Ivy League or Community College but say something where you could get an Engineering degree with a decent chance of getting a job in an average economy as an example)

This is a question which is easily answered in looking at College Board's college listings--

while this doesn't address what MINIMUMS are for that type of school, you can certainly take a look at what averages are for matriculating students.

https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/college-search

A lot of state flagships will admit mostly students who have SAT's well under 500 (Math and/or Reading), and don't even LOOK at what writing scores are.

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Old Dad, many of us have indicated that "completely free" probably isn't good, either. I happen to be in that particular camp myself. Surprising, I know, given how moderate-to-liberal most of my framework and worldview tends to be. I just think that human beings don't value what they don't have to pay for personally (in some way-- could be monetary, could be service).

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Jon, that's what I fear, myself-- that the quality issues within the entire system have gone so far over the edge that there isn't an obvious way to recover, but I don't really see anything else emerging to truly replace it yet, either.

Schrödinger's cat walks into a bar. And doesn't.