[quote=Dude
But SES clearly matters for the portion of your statement I bolded. Low SES often means attending bad schools with limited resources. Low SES often means limited time with parents due to more immediate survival needs. Low SES often means living in an environment not conducive to the support of learning.

As I said in another thread, achievement is an intersection of ability, opportunity, and effort. SES is a dominant influence on the middle one. [/quote]

Dude,

I gave an example with Dr. Ben Carson. His Mom was a single parent and she hold two jobs. She did not have extra money for tutoring or what not when her sons were failing. She just gave them ultimatum and made them study hard. (I do not remember about the school but most likely not a good one either but he succeeded anyway mainly due to his mom's intervention.)

The accountability is not just on the teachers, it fall squarely on the parents as well. But I don't think it applies to the parents in this forum.

I also noted that high SES is an advantage. BUT there is no excuse for not taking 10 minutes a day and make your kids accountable.