But isn't that the point of the discussion Zenscan? I don't think there is a question that the herd follows the cultural thesis of the times. We are sticking our heads up from the herd and discussing how to get on a different path?

And in doing so, perhaps we will forget the next cultural thesis on raising kids. Maybe someone here will write the book and go on Oprah. Raising your kids to leave home after college. I bet that would be a best seller.