Originally Posted by Dude
Counter-point for Val: If you think ability is fixed and unchangeable, why would you be a member of a forum that advocates for appropriate challenge (and therefore, growth opportunities) for gifted children?

Read my posts. You'll see I didn't say that --- but I believe that the range of talent optimization is narrow (with the range for reducing it being very wide).

Also, talent (aka ability here) is not the same as skill. Skill needs to be developed with appropriate challenge. Talent drives how well you can improve your skills.