Originally Posted by Bostonian
I read the memo and don't consider it bullying. If we are going to discuss why a sex or race is under-represented in a certain occupation and what (if anything) should be done about it, all explanations for the under-representation with data behind them should be considered.

But the problem is that any explanation put forward needs to be true.

Examples of pure garbage in his memo:

Originally Posted by Damore memo
On average, men and women biologically differ in many ways. These differences aren’t just socially constructed because:


● Biological males that were castrated at birth and raised as females often still identify and act like males

Okay, he needs to cite the study where boys were castrated at birth, raised as girls, and then identified as males later.

Problem: it doesn't exist. Can you imagine the consent form? "Parent agrees to castration of male infant for the purposes of assessing gender identification later."

He most likely read about David Reimer and generalized from there, so he gets an F for that piece of "data" analysis. Given his job, he would have known better. He was making stuff up. Irrelevant stuff.

Or, take this:

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This leads to women generally having a harder time negotiating salary, asking for raises, speaking up, and leading. Note that these are just average differences and there’s overlap between men and women, but this is seen solely as a women’s issue. This leads to exclusory programs like Stretch and swaths of men without support

I note that Google is facing more than one lawsuit over pay discrimination, extending all the way to its childcare workers. They're refusing to release their data on the subject, which is not a good sign.

But...Damore says that women tend to have a negotiating problem and therefore it is awful that men are left without support. He wants it both ways: Google has a left-wing PC monoculture regarding women. But pity the poor fellow who can't negotiate as well as his brothers while the women get something called "Stretch." Well, I don't know what that is, but it hasn't helped much. And if Google knows there's a problem, Google should be dealing with it, not every single woman acting on her own.

These are only 2 examples. Overall, the memo is sloppy and doesn't cite a single source supporting its claims (or a summary of why study results often contradict each other). IMO, it's a juvenile and self-serving distortion of facts at best and is essentially a tantrum.

Again --- back to the college tuition thread --- when you want to push a given idea, you can make up any kind of alternative fact. But others have to stick to the narrow path where the actual facts are, which makes the job of someone like Damore, an anti-vaxxer, or a tuition-debt-serfdom-denier that much easier.


Last edited by Val; 04/09/18 03:11 PM. Reason: Irrelevant stuff.