Originally Posted by no5no5
Originally Posted by Val
I wasn't advocating creating some kind of eugenics program aimed at raising IQs. I was only saying "What's so bad about smart people having more kids and increasing the number of smart people out there?" smile

Well, to me, advocating that more smart people produce more children than less smart people is the same as advocating that less smart people should not produce as many children as more smart people. I don't see a difference.

You've distorted what I wrote. That bothers me. This subject makes some people uncomfortable, which is understandable and okay, and it isn't helped when people throw around unfounded accusations and try to inflame things.

Originally Posted by no5no5
And I don't see unusually-high intelligence as being the sort of attribute that is uniformly good, like compassion or health.

Again, I didn't say "unusually high." I said "smart," which is probably around the +1 SD mark more or less, depending, etc.


Originally Posted by no5no5
I don't see why people who are perfectly satisfied with their lives and jobs and circumstances would benefit from an increased IQ.

This is totally off-topic from what I said. Please don't throw in random segues to inflame a discussion. I never said anything disparaging (or otherwise) about people who who are happy with their lives or their IQs.

Originally Posted by no5no5
I guess what I'm saying is that intelligence is like height. I see no reason why being tall is better than being short (unless one wants to be a basketball player) or why being short is better than being tall (unless one wants to be comfortable in airplanes).

You've made my argument for me. I said that our world is being increasingly driven by technology. Technology workers have to be smart, and there's no way around that. They need other characteristics too (e.g. integrity, drive), but this doesn't detract from the fact that they need to be smart.

Originally Posted by no5no5
And yes, in a world as overpopulated as ours, I see an argument for an increase in one group of people as an insidious, rather than overt, form of eugenics. To me it is no less offensive.

Invoking Godwin's law never helps. shocked Though a corollary to that law says that I've won the debate because of your accusation. smile