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Re: Gifted 9 year old girls struggles
FrameistElite
11/24/25 10:18 AM
Why did they not diagnose your daughter? Did something else explain the symptoms or not? It may also be because of learning disabilities or expressive language delays.
How did they observe your daughter?
You can PM me about the processes and instruments and I can give you my viewpoint.
But sometimes ADHD in gifted can be underdiagnosed due to compensation and milder presentation.
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Re: Struggles behaviorally with body management
aeh
11/23/25 09:21 PM
Welcome, Dwayne! It takes a minute for new posters to show up in the feed, so sorry no one replied earlier.
We also had a relatively young first grader (a few years back!) who was wiggly and impulsive. On the whole, ours would have had even more difficulty with self-regulation if given less intellectual stimulation--which even the school staff acknowledged by the end of the school year.
With yours, repeating her due to nonresponsive staff seems, TBH, like forcing the child to take the consequences for adult failings. The data on retentions has been very consistent for decades, and finds that it is, at best, nonimpactful, and at worst, deleterious. There is usually a short-term bump in performance, followed by diminishing benefits until somewhere in the middle grades, concluding with losses compared to comparison peers by the end of high school.
Now obviously, group data do not determine individual outcomes, so for any given student-family-school combination, it is possible that repeating has good outcomes. But fwiw, the numbers do not favor retention.
In your position, I think I would let the OT have an opportunity to work with her on sensory processing strategies and accommodations. Even if the staff are not enthused, once they see the benefits to them (in reduced demands on staff for management), they may be more cooperative. Lukewarm staff, in my experience, respond better to concrete tools than to strategies. For example, many sensory kids do well with elastic bands across the front legs of their chairs as a kind of gross motor fidget (nice thing to bounce on instead of tipping the chair or tapping one's feet). Also it gives some body-in-space feedback. You can also try teaching her to wrap her feet around the front two legs of the chair, which stabilizes her in the seat, and gives some of that sensory feedback.
Your what-if question is fair, but also water under the bridge at this point! But as an academic point of discussion, really it's a question of which skill would have experienced developmental mismatch this year, and what would have been of more value for her and your family holistically. At least one of them would have--it just would have been different ones. You can speculate on that, but no one can say in hind-sight how it would have played out, nor could you have predicted it a year ago. As parents, we just make the best decisions we can based on the information and conditions we have available at the time.
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Re: Did you know?
Sofia Baar
11/18/25 07:34 AM
No real hunch. Like some here we just thought all kids were smart little sponges. We were once sitting at a wedding reception with our probably 3 yr old son beside a lady we had never met. She kept asking him all kinds of questions and he would elaborate on his answers. She tipped us off.
Looking back we kind of knew I guess but we are a pretty nerdy group and he just blended in.
When he was three he was always wanting to read parts of the books at bed time. Anywhere we went he had to read everything at the library or museums. Every morning he would read the nutritional labels on boxes of cereal and trying to figure the percentage values for a full day of eating.
Again around three maybe four we went to a pool party and all the kids were swimming and the adults were sitting around with their feet in the pool. He pulls in several life jacket and was reading type code and warnings on the tags. Asking questions about certain words he was sounding out and asking questions about drowning. The others were looking at us like we were the most crazy parents, almost like we were torturing him. I remember just shrugging. It’s interesting how those little clues only make sense in hindsight. At the time it just feels like “this is our kid, this is normal,” especially when you’re already in a nerdy or curious household. What you described doesn’t sound forced at all — just a kid who was naturally drawn to information and wanted to understand the world around him. It’s funny how strangers sometimes notice things before we do. And honestly, there’s nothing “crazy” about letting a child follow their curiosity, even if it looks unusual to others. Sounds like you handled it exactly right.
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Re: WISC-V Index Scores & Confidence Intervals
jaritsaa44
11/11/25 09:43 AM
Hi everyone, My son is taking the WISC-V soon, and I�m trying to learn all I can about the test. After reading the extended norms report, I�m left with a couple questions: If I understand correctly, the WISC-V subtests are all normally distributed and imperfectly correlated with one another, so composite indices derived from multiple subtests should have lower standard deviations than what is obtained through averaging those of its components (for example, an index comprised of two subtests with mean = 10 and standard deviation = 3: an index averaging the two should have a mean of 10 but a standard deviation less than 3). This makes sense to me, as a student averaging +1 SD on two sufficiently unique but equally relevant tasks would yield a > +1 SD composite score. Indices such as the VCI and FRI, both derived from two subtests, seem to support this, as a sum of 38 on either index, or average score of 19 (+3 SD), yields a composite score of 155 (+3.67 SD). The effect is even stronger in the GAI, derived from five subtests: an average subtest score of 19 yields a GAI of 160 (+4 SD). However, when three more subtests are added to the GAI to make the EGAI, the effect stays the same (mean = 19 : +4 SD). This is also true for the VCI and VECI and the GAI, CPI, and FSIQ. Was this done to maintain consistency in interpretation, or have the additional subtests been designed with substitution in mind? In the last case, the FSIQ seems to be an average of the other two top-level indices. I am also struggling to understand why the confidence intervals listed are the same size throughout the scaled score continuum for every index. From what I�ve read on Item Response Theory, the standard error of measurement is calculated from the inverse square root of the test�s information function (which I assume is high around the average score of 100 and tapers off at the extremes, since the test is designed to work best around the population average). I took the expected score moving up within the confidence intervals the higher the score as an indication of the information function bottoming out and scores subsequently regressing to the mean, but the size of the SEm appears to be constant. The gifted sample undoubtedly helps in providing more information for the upper extreme, but even so, I can�t imagine why the SEm wouldn�t change throughout such a large scale. I am neither a psychologist nor a statistician, so anything I�ve written here could be erroneous; nevertheless, any help would be appreciated. I’ve been in a similar “too much to manage at once” phase, and that’s actually when I first tried bringing in extra hands through https://neklo.com/it-staff-augmentation-services/ to keep projects moving while I focused on the important stuff. It freed up a surprising amount of mental space. If anything, it taught me that sometimes the smartest move is just reducing your own load so you can process information calmly. Thanks in advance. I’ve run into similar confusion with WISC-V scoring before, so you’re definitely not alone. A lot of the quirks come from how the composite scores are built and how Pearson keeps interpretation consistent across indices, even when the number of subtests changes
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Re: Contest or program for business plans
toti777
11/10/25 07:18 PM
If the goal is to teach students the components of a business plan brainstorming ideas, researching competition, projecting finances, defining target markets then a program makes a lot of sense: it provides structured guidance, mentorship, perhaps even workshops or classes. If instead the objective is to motivate students to produce something more actionable (and maybe even compete for recognition or seed funding), then a contest can spark focus, momentum, and real outpu
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Re: New! Help Needed for 2e gifted 7 yo w School Traum
Eagle Mum
11/05/25 05:46 AM
Your experience really helps put things into perspective. Did you find certain teachers more open to adjusting their approach than others? Hi Giuseppe. I’m not sure to which of us your question was directed and the first few posts of new members take a while to become visible. In our experience, there’s been a wide range of how teachers responded to our kids’ needs - from one who told off my eldest for working ahead, to the amazing HoD who worked with the school executive to organise a school-wide subscription to an online maths program, which enabled my son to work several grades ahead without any need to rearrange class schedules. My DCs were more likely to get adjustments when their teachers were HoD or the most senior teacher for the stage that the cohort were in at the time.
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Re: What do I ask for to support my kids?
FidelPope
11/05/25 04:05 AM
Reminds me of when I was volunteering at a small after-school program and a bright, bored kid was acting out, disrupting everything. We tried extra challenges, but he needed something different. The gradual Slope of understanding eventually led us to realize he needed mentoring. We found him a local engineer who was just what he needed. I hope it helps!
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Re: Gifted Development Center reviews?
rorykiing
11/05/25 03:02 AM
in science there is always disagreement about validating, testing, treatment. Especially for those who are on the leading edge or looking at something from a new direction. Your story sent a chill down my spine. So good to hear of breakthroughs and encouragement to think outside of the box, go above and beyond, and be persistent.  Future readers of this thread may be interested to view this youtube video, The unique inner lives of gifted children block blast, featuring a keynote speech by Dr. Linda Silverman. This is the first time I have heard someone acknowledge the reaction to "inauthentic" people. I have had this my whole life. I'm blown away.
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Re: gifted on basis of I-Ready?
Penny Bright
11/05/25 02:26 AM
I-Ready scores alone usually aren’t enough for a gifted designation. Schools often require additional assessments like CogAT, NNAT, or teacher recommendations. Still, a 725 is an exceptional score — it should definitely support her case when combined with teacher input and performance evidence.
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