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    Re: How to get child to actually "study" FrameistElite 03/02/26 10:06 AM
    Even if some asynchronies are not really associated with impairments, well they need to be accounted for and there is some leeway with DSM interpretation. I myself don't particularly like the DSM criteria for SpLD.

    Highlighting the why is important, though at some point these reminders should be lessened.

    The crux of the matter - which study skills is she perhaps lacking in?
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    Re: "Gifted" or just "Talented"? FrameistElite 03/02/26 09:52 AM
    Yes, I generally agree, although I also see an end game of parenting as defending liberty and ensuring that the child retains freedom, even if they are not as healthy or holistic.

    Sometimes, if one wants a goal, such as early admission/skipping levels, some sacrifices may need to be made. Which ones are you willing to make? Which ones is she willing to make?

    Are there any behavioral matters which could put college admissions off her early admission? Be careful, some universities are not supportive or worse harassing towards early entrants.
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    Re: What’s important for gifted child at elementary? FrameistElite 03/01/26 05:48 PM
    Welcome NT!

    Unfortunately it seems as if the school has misguided views on giftedness. You can be gifted while struggling with one aspect and not be able to demonstrate it academically.

    I'd personally push a little bit harder but don't push too much, perhaps lean on supplementary Ed Psych report or transfer him elsewhere.

    Any other concerns? While enrichment may be sufficient to maintain a child's intellectual curiosity, it may not work as well for 2e. Also... perhaps be transparent and remember that for gifted children they do not need to "fail" in one area to be learning disabled or dyspraxic. If all other areas are highly superior but one is average, that suggests a very clear weakness.

    Perhaps typing or a laptop might suit him better as an accommodation in some areas.
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    Re: PhD in physics, average IQ? aeh 02/25/26 10:45 PM
    Robyq, I would suggest being extremely cautious about posting specific test results for someone else (especially an adult) without their consent. I would further suggest that questions regarding 2e should come from your friend, rather than you, and again, only with consent. (As in, please don't do either of these things.)

    With regard to the general question of what testing profiles "belong" in specific fields of study or levels of education, consider that not every person's abilities are uniformly captured by the instruments available to us, for a variety of reasons. Licensed clinicians use these instruments only in context, after extensive training, and for the purposes for which they are each designed. Fields which require specialized skills are much less likely to benefit from the predictive value of general assessments.

    Bottom line, in your place, I would simply appreciate that your friend has been a good sport about allowing you access to personal information, and taking unnecessary tests at your request. If they find that they have questions about themselves and their educational or other experiences, then they may wish to consider professional evaluation. But if they are satisfied with their own current growth, whole-person learning, development and relationships, then they should be allowed to enjoy them. The graduate school years are typically a lot of work, but can be intellectually exhilarating and personally enilvening. Let them be.
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    Re: Online calculus FrameistElite 02/23/26 09:25 AM
    An alternative might be Coursera or UCLA Extension possibly?

    One online alternative might actually be the Chinese University of Hong Kong which is surprisingly lax for gifted students and accepts grade skips more readily.
    (https://www.math.cuhk.edu.hk/e-learning/online-e-learning-center#:~:text=The%20online%20E%2DLearning%20Center,MATH4230%20%2D%20Optimization%20Theory)
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    Re: Should We Advocate Further? Alaricc 02/12/26 09:12 AM
    Originally Posted by indigo
    You ask great questions, let's see if these few thoughts may be of some aid in your decision-making:

    - A school's goal is typically NOT to identify a person as gifted, but rather to make a match between available levels of educational challenge and the needs of the pupil.

    - Schools typically differ in their gifted-challenge-level educational offerings (if any). Therefore when changing schools, a student's placement may differ.

    - What did the prior school offer/provide as their gifted-level ELA program?

    - What does the current school offer/provide as their gifted-level ELA program?

    - Does the current school's offering for mainstream ELA more closely resemble the prior school's offering for gifted-level ELA?

    - How close were your child's scores to the cut-off for the current school's qualification for gifted-level ELA?

    These old posts may also be of interest:
    1) Meeting a student's need for academic challenge -
    http://giftedissues.davidsongifted....Re_what_kids_don_t_learn.html#Post233062
    2) Meeting a student's need for intellectual peers -
    http://giftedissues.davidsongifted....icle_about_poor_school_f.html#Post229604 slope
    3) Crowd-sourced tips for parental advocacy to meet their student's educational needs -
    http://giftedissues.davidsongifted....y_Advocacy_as_a_Non_Newt.html#Post183916
    Thank you
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    Company policy says 2e is a pure disability acgoldis 02/07/26 05:12 PM
    I've been a software engineer at the same company for over 25 years. I'm highly to profoundly gifted, HSP, and 2e.

    I like it there and have been working from home for a while. But now they're forcing everyone to come back to the office. Originally they tried to gently convince people, but the employees didn't want to. Now they're bringing out the big guns. Unless you have a work-related excuse, you have to go back. Ironically, my coworker has a work related excuse in that he talks to people at 11 pm our time. But I apparently "do not".

    They're basically fed up with ALL excuses at this point, thinking they're nonsense. But this one isn't. I got an earlier waiver which should have settled it but now they're batting that down.

    I spoke to HR today and they gave me a waiver to work from home full time...but not due to the fact that neurodivergent and gifted people have different needs and mindsets from the majority and one size does not fit all.

    They said it fell under the ADA. And that neurodiversity is a disability. I can get an exemption through an ADA case. They sent me all the ADA forms. In effect, I HAVE to disclose if I want to continue working from home.

    Basically it's a case by case basis. And if you have abilities which do not express which would help the company you can't use them. The only time when it can be used is when having them HARMS your performance so you can be brought up to average.

    I argued that I can try to grow and help the company because I transcend the conventional work silos and can't be confined to just one. That is a skill unique to me. My manager said that's nice but that does not help your career. When I expect you to grow, you're supposed to grow in your own silo.

    People have also been complained that I can't train people because I think differently from them. "What good is your knowledge and experience if you can't relay it to junior engineers to bring them up to speed?" It's fairly obvious that the skip thinking and metacognition is the barrier there and there's nothing I can do about that. But the important thing is I get the job done even though often I don't know how I do it (and sometimes my manager doesn't either).

    I tried to explain that there may be other cases like this where seemingly functional people can be made great by letting them choose their environment. Her response was telling. She got it, as she had a neurodivergent kid. However, "thank you for your opinion".

    Basically "I agree with you, but there's nothing I can do about the policy. I truly and sincerely apologize..."

    I think she knows they're making a mistake but there's nothing she can do to fight upper management.

    What do I do? It's a tough situation: upper management is making a mistake but doesn't realize it, and my manager and his engineering manager both do. But they have to follow orders.

    Once you've experienced the luxury of working from home you can't go back. I can control my sensory environment and stuff.

    If I give in, I return to work and will probably be exhausted pretty easily. Not to mention it will wreck my cleaning lady and therapist schedules. And I'll have to eat out all the time again. I can DO it, as I've done it before, but it will not help the company at all since we're all over the country and will just hurt me. So my performance won't improve at all if I work from there: you'd just get "you have to come to check a box even though the company doesn't benefit at all".

    If I don't, I run the risk of being forced out due to ADA and stigmas against people with disabilities. And that will also hurt the company.

    With the options we now have it's a lose-lose situation unless we can convince upper management to get their heads out of their asses and realize neurodivergence is not a disability.

    Right now it's a case by case basis here. Problem is that this is a class action scenario that has to be extended to cover neurodivergent people so I can't stop at myself.
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