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Gifted 9 year old girls struggles
Worriedmom23
11/21/25 01:46 AM
My daughter's teacher two years ago noticed my daughter didn't comprehend as well as she could read. Would only give one sentence answer etc. also noticed she wasn't great at following multiple steps directions and would have to ask the teacher what she was to be doing. We decided to have an psycho educational assessment on her. She didn't qualify for an ADHD diagnosis, but they found out her IQ is 130.
These issues are still apparent now two years later, so I decided to get a second ADHD opinion. She still doesn't quality. Mostly because we don't notice symptoms at home and they say she isn't significantly impaired.
I am at a loss of what to do. Anyone else's gifted childs teacher think they had ADHD but they don't?
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Re: Did you know?
Sofia Baar
11/18/25 07:34 AM
No real hunch. Like some here we just thought all kids were smart little sponges.
We were once sitting at a wedding reception with our probably 3 yr old son beside a lady we had never met. She kept asking him all kinds of questions and he would elaborate on his answers. She tipped us off.
Looking back we kind of knew I guess but we are a pretty nerdy group and he just blended in.
When he was three he was always wanting to read parts of the books at bed time. Anywhere we went he had to read everything at the library or museums. Every morning he would read the nutritional labels on boxes of cereal and trying to figure the percentage values for a full day of eating.
Again around three maybe four we went to a pool party and all the kids were swimming and the adults were sitting around with their feet in the pool. He pulls in several life jacket and was reading type code and warnings on the tags. Asking questions about certain words he was sounding out and asking questions about drowning. The others were looking at us like we were the most crazy parents, almost like we were torturing him. I remember just shrugging. It’s interesting how those little clues only make sense in hindsight. At the time it just feels like “this is our kid, this is normal,” especially when you’re already in a nerdy or curious household. What you described doesn’t sound forced at all — just a kid who was naturally drawn to information and wanted to understand the world around him. It’s funny how strangers sometimes notice things before we do. And honestly, there’s nothing “crazy” about letting a child follow their curiosity, even if it looks unusual to others. Sounds like you handled it exactly right.
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Re: WISC-V Index Scores & Confidence Intervals
jaritsaa44
11/11/25 09:43 AM
Hi everyone, My son is taking the WISC-V soon, and I�m trying to learn all I can about the test. After reading the extended norms report, I�m left with a couple questions: If I understand correctly, the WISC-V subtests are all normally distributed and imperfectly correlated with one another, so composite indices derived from multiple subtests should have lower standard deviations than what is obtained through averaging those of its components (for example, an index comprised of two subtests with mean = 10 and standard deviation = 3: an index averaging the two should have a mean of 10 but a standard deviation less than 3). This makes sense to me, as a student averaging +1 SD on two sufficiently unique but equally relevant tasks would yield a > +1 SD composite score. Indices such as the VCI and FRI, both derived from two subtests, seem to support this, as a sum of 38 on either index, or average score of 19 (+3 SD), yields a composite score of 155 (+3.67 SD). The effect is even stronger in the GAI, derived from five subtests: an average subtest score of 19 yields a GAI of 160 (+4 SD). However, when three more subtests are added to the GAI to make the EGAI, the effect stays the same (mean = 19 : +4 SD). This is also true for the VCI and VECI and the GAI, CPI, and FSIQ. Was this done to maintain consistency in interpretation, or have the additional subtests been designed with substitution in mind? In the last case, the FSIQ seems to be an average of the other two top-level indices. I am also struggling to understand why the confidence intervals listed are the same size throughout the scaled score continuum for every index. From what I�ve read on Item Response Theory, the standard error of measurement is calculated from the inverse square root of the test�s information function (which I assume is high around the average score of 100 and tapers off at the extremes, since the test is designed to work best around the population average). I took the expected score moving up within the confidence intervals the higher the score as an indication of the information function bottoming out and scores subsequently regressing to the mean, but the size of the SEm appears to be constant. The gifted sample undoubtedly helps in providing more information for the upper extreme, but even so, I can�t imagine why the SEm wouldn�t change throughout such a large scale. I am neither a psychologist nor a statistician, so anything I�ve written here could be erroneous; nevertheless, any help would be appreciated. I’ve been in a similar “too much to manage at once” phase, and that’s actually when I first tried bringing in extra hands through https://neklo.com/it-staff-augmentation-services/ to keep projects moving while I focused on the important stuff. It freed up a surprising amount of mental space. If anything, it taught me that sometimes the smartest move is just reducing your own load so you can process information calmly. Thanks in advance. I’ve run into similar confusion with WISC-V scoring before, so you’re definitely not alone. A lot of the quirks come from how the composite scores are built and how Pearson keeps interpretation consistent across indices, even when the number of subtests changes
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Re: Contest or program for business plans
toti777
11/10/25 07:18 PM
If the goal is to teach students the components of a business plan brainstorming ideas, researching competition, projecting finances, defining target markets then a program makes a lot of sense: it provides structured guidance, mentorship, perhaps even workshops or classes. If instead the objective is to motivate students to produce something more actionable (and maybe even compete for recognition or seed funding), then a contest can spark focus, momentum, and real outpu
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Re: New! Help Needed for 2e gifted 7 yo w School Traum
Eagle Mum
11/05/25 05:46 AM
Your experience really helps put things into perspective. Did you find certain teachers more open to adjusting their approach than others? Hi Giuseppe. I’m not sure to which of us your question was directed and the first few posts of new members take a while to become visible. In our experience, there’s been a wide range of how teachers responded to our kids’ needs - from one who told off my eldest for working ahead, to the amazing HoD who worked with the school executive to organise a school-wide subscription to an online maths program, which enabled my son to work several grades ahead without any need to rearrange class schedules. My DCs were more likely to get adjustments when their teachers were HoD or the most senior teacher for the stage that the cohort were in at the time.
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Re: What do I ask for to support my kids?
FidelPope
11/05/25 04:05 AM
Reminds me of when I was volunteering at a small after-school program and a bright, bored kid was acting out, disrupting everything. We tried extra challenges, but he needed something different. The gradual Slope of understanding eventually led us to realize he needed mentoring. We found him a local engineer who was just what he needed. I hope it helps!
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Re: Gifted Development Center reviews?
rorykiing
11/05/25 03:02 AM
in science there is always disagreement about validating, testing, treatment. Especially for those who are on the leading edge or looking at something from a new direction. Your story sent a chill down my spine. So good to hear of breakthroughs and encouragement to think outside of the box, go above and beyond, and be persistent.  Future readers of this thread may be interested to view this youtube video, The unique inner lives of gifted children block blast, featuring a keynote speech by Dr. Linda Silverman. This is the first time I have heard someone acknowledge the reaction to "inauthentic" people. I have had this my whole life. I'm blown away.
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Re: gifted on basis of I-Ready?
Penny Bright
11/05/25 02:26 AM
I-Ready scores alone usually aren’t enough for a gifted designation. Schools often require additional assessments like CogAT, NNAT, or teacher recommendations. Still, a 725 is an exceptional score — it should definitely support her case when combined with teacher input and performance evidence.
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Re: Gifted Development Center reviews?
Josefina T.
11/04/25 10:41 PM
I have also tested my daughter with the GDC. Tomorrow I have the devolution call. In the meantime we followed Linda recommendation and tested her for binocular disfunction and auditory processing disorder. She has both. She is already using her new lenses and will start VT mid November. She is using the passive filter from Able Kids Foundation and it is working.
I am super grateful with Linda Silverman.
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Re: New! Help Needed for 2e gifted 7 yo w School Traum
JPH
10/31/25 08:58 PM
Hi! Thank you for your response. We believe our son is 2E as well. He has executive function issues that really hurt his success in school. He under-performs. Has extreme boredom in class. Low frustration to learning new tasks or when challenged with new material and bad perfectionism that almost paralyses him. He had no stamina for boring, rote, repetitive work and really is acting up in class in order to entertain himself.
What kid of accommodations was your son provided? How did you get an official 2e “label”?
Thanks!
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Re: Freedoms for gifted students
FrameistElite
10/29/25 02:49 PM
It's a good compromise, including the curfew issue, and of course, we do need to cover our legal responsibilities... even if I may be more tempted to defend my children despite their bad habit. I do believe we need a limit somewhere so they do have a sense of security, and that limit is drugs—I will not allow them in the home. However, I will not go out of my way to catch kids doing drugs.
I do agree with you on all of this, including outings before the exam. It's their consequences. I managed what may be converted to 98 or 99+ ATAR depending on university (not Australian).
Ultimately I do believe this is great parenting. However what about the other kids? What if teachers try to impose stricter limits on the students that may not be fair, for instance in a misguided attempt at "safeguarding"?
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Re: Freedoms for gifted students
Eagle Mum
10/27/25 09:00 PM
How would you have reacted if one of your kids decided to become the 'wild, rebellious, youngest' child? I'm glad your youngest has been treated well on campus - not everyone has that and unfortunately some lower tier universities do not treat them well. Some may get disciplined for matters that are trivial.
That seems like a nice watching and yet giving plenty of freedom. Also... how would you react if one suddenly decided they enjoyed smoking/vaping? Force them to quit? But yes, it's a reminder of what I could have been. If there had been anything illegal, including underage drinking and vaping, we would definitely have intervened. The freedom I was happy to give included who they dated and who they chose as friends (they could choose friends who did illegal things such as underage drinking, but not if the illegal activities involved my kids) and how they organised their lives - my eldest went to a couple of dozen 18th birthday parties in her last year of high school, including one which was an overnight camping event one week before the major HSC exams. I didn’t think it was ideal, but I gave her that freedom and she still managed to achieve a 99+ ATAR and band 6 and E4 results (all highest bands) in 14 units which only two other students in our state achieved that year (in the top public selective school & top private school, respectively, in the state, whereas my kids all attended our local public school which is very lowly ranked, but it was another decision I let them make for themselves). I’ve written all this in past tense as they are now legally adults. I would still counsel them (and offer alternatives if I can) if they ever discuss a decision with me, but other than deciding how much I would support any venture, it’s really up to them to make their own decisions. To give you an example of how I would approach a potential problem - we recently lost a young relative on my husband’s side of the family in a motorbike accident. My nephew (my brother’s son) recently bought a motorbike - my brother was distraught when my nephew announced this intention, so I offered to go halves with my brother to buy my nephew a convertible sports car instead. He has gone ahead with the motorbike purchase, but I have left the offer on the table if he ever has a near miss or changes his mind for any reason.
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Re: Freedoms for gifted students
FrameistElite
10/27/25 05:41 PM
How would you have reacted if one of your kids decided to become the 'wild, rebellious, youngest' child? I'm glad your youngest has been treated well on campus - not everyone has that and unfortunately some lower tier universities do not treat them well. Some may get disciplined for matters that are trivial.
That seems like a nice watching and yet giving plenty of freedom. Also... how would you react if one suddenly decided they enjoyed smoking/vaping? Force them to quit? But yes, it's a reminder of what I could have been.
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Re: Freedoms for gifted students
Eagle Mum
10/26/25 09:56 PM
How old is the youngest's BF and eldest BF? Does she drink elsewhere other than the bars to avoid being caught and to respect the University?
It's nice that he made the place more inclusive, whether in socializing or in hobbies. What about limits in other areas, such as curfews or smoking/vaping? I knew some who allowed their young sons/daughters to vape in places where there was no purchase age for free samples. Did they have bad habits or minor flaws that were otherwise fine?
In hindsight for myself Australia and US are nicer for these sorts of things. I would have stayed home and went to local university early. If your questions are to me, then in my original post, I clearly described that my youngest took her first sip of alcohol when she reached legal drinking age (18 years throughout Australia, whereas I am aware that the different US states set their own legal age limits). There was a large turn out to celebrate because she was the last student in her freshmen cohort to reach legal drinking age (the university held special events during orientation week at the beginning of the year, for students who were under the legal drinking age, so these students shared their birthday details with each other). My other two aren’t interested in alcohol at all. None of my kids smoke or vape. As a young general medical practitioner, my eldest campaigns against it and does much to promote healthy living lifestyles. Both my daughters dated older classmates who were 16 & 17 months older respectively; similar age differences as some of their female classmates who dated guys in the grade above them. The relationship dynamics were arguably more equal, since my daughters, as early entrants, had been with their class cohort from the first year of school. I’ve never imposed a curfew - in eagle parenting style, I keep a close watchful eye over my kids, but give them plenty of freedom, as long as they don’t break my trust and they rarely disappoint me. The main difficulty I had with parenting them was that when they were young, my younger two fought incessantly, but when he turned ten, he abruptly stopped reacting and when she turned ten, they rapidly got on very well. Although she adores them, my youngest struggled quite a lot, feeling overshadowed by her two older siblings. Going away to a University/college, where no one knows her siblings and where she is currently well regarded and treated well as the youngest on campus, has been great for her self esteem. It was really interesting to hear her recently articulate her previous concerns that she would become a cliche’ of the ‘wild, rebellious, youngest child’ (she has a special empathy that is a gift, but she did see herself as the black sheep of the family based on tangible achievements) and her relief that she has turned out to be well organised and high functioning.
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Re: Freedoms for gifted students
FrameistElite
10/26/25 03:17 PM
How old is the youngest's BF and eldest BF? Does she drink elsewhere other than the bars to avoid being caught and to respect the University?
It's nice that he made the place more inclusive, whether in socializing or in hobbies. What about limits in other areas, such as curfews or smoking/vaping? I knew some who allowed their young sons/daughters to vape in places where there was no purchase age for free samples. Did they have bad habits or minor flaws that were otherwise fine?
In hindsight for myself Australia and US are nicer for these sorts of things. I would have stayed home and went to local university early.
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