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    Re: Grade Acceleration K-1-2 spaghetti 01/26/25 01:14 PM
    My dd (22 now) had similar experience. Prior to enrollment in K, the teachers who knew her from when she tagged along with older brother, recommended advancement. Principal said no worries, skipping never needs to happen. However, on enrollment, they had her visit the classroom and all thought it a great fit. We reluctantly agreed after negotiation.
    And..... it was the right decision. As she grew, we would look at her age grade peers and realize it would have been a poor fit socially and academically. Never regretted it. (til drinking age, but that's another story)

    What I'd recommend is to have him visit the first grade for one or two classes over the period of 2 weeks. Let them all give it a try to see if it's a good fit and what issues there might be. Now is the time that you have the most leverage for a successful placement. Is there a neighbor who is not a good fit? You might be able to keep them in different circles. Some math concepts he doesn't quite get? You might be able to see the curriculum and pre-teach for success in 1st grade. Now is the time to ask. Regarding the testing for GT, I'd negotiate that no matter how he does on that testing, he will be admitted to the GT programming.
    My little one started to tank again in 3rd grade emotionally from boredom. So needed to skip to 5th (preplanned to be temporary) when the real GT testing happens. First timed test. Was really enjoying the test and no clue about needing to perform. Failed it miserably, but they put her in GT anyway (til we undid the skip and the middle school tried to take her out but that's another story). It's all in the negotiations.
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    Re: WISC-V Index Scores & Confidence Intervals LilyKroger 01/22/25 02:47 PM
    Originally Posted by OldManDan
    Hi everyone,

    My son is taking the WISC-V soon, and I�m trying to learn all I can about the test. After reading the extended norms report, I�m left with a couple questions:

    If I understand correctly, the WISC-V subtests are all normally distributed and imperfectly correlated with one another, so composite indices derived from multiple subtests should have lower standard deviations than what is obtained through averaging those of its components (for example, an index comprised of two subtests with mean = 10 and standard deviation = 3: an index averaging the two should have a mean of 10 but a standard deviation less than 3). This makes sense to me, as a student averaging +1 SD on two sufficiently unique but equally relevant tasks would yield a > +1 SD composite score. Indices such as the VCI and FRI, both derived from two subtests, seem to support this, as a sum of 38 on either index, or average score of 19 (+3 SD), yields a composite score of 155 (+3.67 SD). The effect is even stronger in the GAI, derived from five subtests: an average subtest score of 19 yields a GAI of 160 (+4 SD). However, when three more subtests are added to the GAI to make the EGAI, the effect stays the same (mean = 19 : +4 SD). This is also true for the VCI and VECI and the GAI, CPI, and FSIQ. Was this done to maintain consistency in interpretation, or have the additional subtests been designed with substitution in mind? In the last case, the FSIQ seems to be an average of the other two top-level indices.

    I am also struggling to understand why the confidence intervals listed are the same size throughout the scaled score continuum for every index. From what I�ve read on Item Response Theory, the standard error of measurement is calculated from the inverse square root of the test�s information function (which I assume is high around the average score of 100 and tapers off at the extremes, since the test is designed to work best around the population average). I took the expected score moving up within the confidence intervals the higher the score as an indication of the information function bottoming out and scores subsequently regressing to the mean, but the size of the SEm appears to be constant. The gifted sample undoubtedly helps in providing more information for the upper extreme, but even so, I can�t imagine why the SEm wouldn�t change throughout such a large scale.

    I am neither a psychologist nor a statistician, so anything I�ve written here could be erroneous; nevertheless, any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    The reasoning is that when subtests are combined, shared variance between them stabilizes the composite score, reducing the overall standard deviation compared to individual components.
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