Originally Posted by Wren
Reading yannam's posts, I really get her situation and I do not think it fair that we patronize her.

I've read this whole thread and I haven't read a single patronizing message. I did read a lot of posts that disagree with Yannam, which isn't the same thing as being patronizing.

I know lots of people who survived poverty (many in my family) and survived without telling their kids "I'd rather you were dumb than shy."

Originally Posted by Wren
The reactions to yannam's posts are not practical in today's situation. Not the 60s anymore and although my concerns are a little different, I am in the same vein.

Perhaps we need a bit more of the 60s. Today's situation of focusing on education as a route to money and on getting money as an honorable primary life goal have not exactly got this country into a good state.

Originally Posted by Wren
Since we have talking heads describing the lack of opportunities for our graduates and future grads, I think her concerns have basis in them and if helping her child develop stronger social skills helps her succeed, there is nothing wrong with that. It just gives her child more options.


That's not what I've been reading. I've been reading "Shyness is such a horrible thing that I wish my child was dumb and outgoing instead so she could become a manager like I want her to."

Not sure why people take talking heads seriously.

Originally Posted by yannam
i do not want my dd a failure.. may be i am too much worried that being shy, not being able to speak up make her a failure

that is all.....

you can not change the destiny.......

Five year olds can't be failures. Full stop.

Val