Originally Posted by JonLaw
Originally Posted by puffin
And i don't think leadership is an indication of giftedness given that a lot of gifted people are introverted and others don't want to get involved in silly games.

Leadership and introversion are not exclusive.

Hence the "don't want to get involved in silly games" clause, though I'd argue there are other exemptions.

In my experience (which includes the military, which I declare to be the single greatest lab environment for leadership ever, since everyone interchanges roles of leader/subordinate on a frequent basis), when you have people surveying a group of individuals they barely know for a quality they recognize as "leadership," what they're really looking for is assertiveness, a personality trait completely unrelated to IQ.

The funny thing about using "leadership" as an entry to the GT program is that we here in the US have fostered an anti-intellectual society. You can't be a leader if nobody will follow, and the smart kid is not someone we are taught to respect.