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I would never include a CC student who obtained a AA degree or certificate but who said they wanted, but did not yet have, a BA in drop-out stats. Would you?

Of course I would if they set a BA as a goal and didn't reach it 6 years later (remember, 81% of incoming CC students said they wanted to get a BA).

Finishing your sophomore year at a 4-year-college is the rough equivalent of an AA. By your logic, would you then not count students dropping out in their junior or senior years?

And either way, many or most CC students saying that they want a BA end up not even getting an AA. That same site I linked to said that only 39% of students entering higher ed get an AA or a BA in 6 years.

Throwing in the "getting an AA" thing just muddies the water anyway. The point is this: fewer than 20% of students who enter higher ed end up with a BA. Fewer than 40% end up with an AA. This is bad, and the students are not the only ones who are responsible for the problem.

Last edited by Val; 06/03/15 12:42 PM. Reason: Added "not"