Originally Posted by HowlerKarma
?? How does that follow from anything that anyone has thus far stated? If you look at my post, my statement was that any scientist needs a working understanding, and that any scientifically literate person needs to know-- well, basically they need to understand what it is that calculus does.

I may be misunderstanding your position. Perhaps it would help if you explain what you mean by "scientifically literate."

Originally Posted by HowlerKarma
And yes, maybe we SHOULD stop teaching scientific "facts" without the context of the underlying scientific process, quite honestly. That's not what science is fundamentally, and it leads to no end of abysmal reporting and lawmaking that there is such confusion on this point.

So... you're saying we SHOULD stop teaching children science before calculus?