Beckee,

I'm not sure what your point is.

You mentioned definitions of success; a couple people, including me, tried to provide ideas for discussion. Yet you almost seem to be looking for a fight and/or judging certain ethnic groups who might be reading as being "invaders" and "interlopers" who have a history of "planting flags all over the place." confused

I don't see the value in arguing about injustices of the past here. It's not going to get us anywhere and I don't think it will contribute to a discussion about educating gifted/HG+ students.