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    Re: "Gifted" or just "Talented"? FrameistElite 03/21/26 04:04 PM
    Which grade do you intend to put her in? Maybe start her in 10th or 9th would do this year as last year she was above average for 8th grade test, but bear in mind that "above average" does not necessarily mean as great as what some may think. 75th percentile in the class is the upper quartile but not necessarily the top. I was 98th-99th in grade level before they let me skip and for me 1 skip was enough to get into a very top university afterwards.

    I agree with that and that is a reason why I would prefer labelling - if only to have a report stating that her skills are way above average and therefore to accommodate her. At least that's the official paper to support you in case there are any conflict or worse - legal matters (imagine discrimination against 2e).

    My opinion is to report her as grade 10... but it depends on that 8th grade test to be fair. I would prefer AP rather than CLEP for international transfer and standardised benchmarks. I'm OK with her in in person campus at 15-16 full time starting off with AP credit. My concern is more to do with any potential age discrimination and harassment rather than any capability issue - if you do so perhaps have a lawyer on call in case there is serious age discrimination from the university.

    I think the best would be to have a good amount of hobbies, CLEP/AP and then go to university in-person at 15/16 that is what I would do. Even if she goes a little bit wild I am more concerned about others' reactions to her (which we could fix with mediation or legal action) rather than her own capabilities.
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    Re: How to get child to actually "study" FrameistElite 03/21/26 03:45 PM
    I would continue what you are doing for now; it's not simply regarding the concepts but also the study skills as well as applying the things to paper. I would say that sometimes brute force dictation could help for languages and perhaps ask her to blurt out the things she remembers as well as summarise notes and give herself quiz questions? That might work? Any past papers? That could also be fine.

    I think that she should apply herself to regurgitation in the form of questions and there is a reason why we memorise formulas in mathematics and sciences - it is probably far easier to solve the models if you already have the formulas in your memory rather than having to derive them out.

    Even if developmentally her executive function may be on par with age peers, if her IQ is genuinely extraordinarily high that could still indicate an EF disability. But this is complex - I know psychiatrists who even extend this further into maturity and personality.

    I think that the daughter should try to apply herself in small periods of time, perhaps that may work better? Also she should learn how to finish the things she promises to start within the time she promises to do so - it is a very important skill.

    If she finishes 99% of the way to her university/high school applications and then forgets a few documents to finally enrol, by the end then she effectively is forced to take a gap year. Don't forget about that. That became me. I still regret it to this day though fortunately because some people were stupid and chose to harass me I have legal recourse.
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    Re: URL for NWEA 2015 MAP score/percentile converter funtimes 03/20/26 01:40 PM
    Map report says Norm reference data : 2025 and User norms*

    8th grade DS scores dropped a few percentages out of 99%

    Also having a rough EF year bc they removed his IEP for ADHD. Can anyone tell me if this drop is perhaps from the reference data or if it is most likely accurate and maybe dt/ less support? And FWIW they have embedded EF tasks into course grading and he is miserable.

    Being held out of Gifted and Honors.
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