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 So research makes its statistical claims - but without citing - how would you rate the pull of nurture vs nature as it relates to your child's gifts?
I feel like my nurture is giving him the tools he can use do whatever his nature starves for. � �All parents juggle meeting their kids need now with storing stuff for them later. �(think money for carnivals vs college savings). �So now we got to juggle when we want to ration out this educational information, why? �Right now, if there was no future to think of, I would know that offering a pre-school education is fine. �But there is a future and it's heading this way, and it makes me doubt encouraging,., what am I doing? �I'm teaching arithmetic to a three year old? "What's he going to learn in kindergarten if he knows his abc's?" �A neighbor asks. �Keep teaching him as long as he wants to keep learning, the hubby says. �Meanwhile he memorized nursery rhymes he's found online and traces cursive worksheets because he thinks it looks nice. �He asked me for the one at walmart but I bought a better one online. I've got a strong confidence in his nature. �*It allows me to allow others to teach him things I don't believe are right.* �Mainly my own oversensitivity makes me cringe when well meaning friends, family, or neighbors teach him things the way they were taught and that I don't believe are sensible. �I really think about it, bite my tongue, and only state my thoughts when it's my turn to be relevant. �I believe in him too much to convince him that I don't like what somebody else thinks or says. �To me this is because I believe in his pg nature to find his own conclusions over time. �I save my parenting for the mundane, (use a normal voice, if its not yours dont touch it, don't break stuff) not for ruling his internal world. �Or at least I fight to. that's my thoughts on nature vs nurture. �I don't really quiestion weither (sp. Ugh) nature vs nurture defines academic giftedness as much as I question if the gifted should be nurtured differently. �I made a post or two a while back saying how I would raise a gifted kid differently depending on LOG. �One of my items was I would teach them morality less, trusting them more to innately find it. �I just realized why I would feel that way. �If someone told something to a child that I felt was one-sided, misleading, or useless and that child had a lower LOG I would be compelled to speak up immediately with other pov(s) for them to weigh and judge. �A child with a higher LOG will store the idea on a back burner for years and file it away and encounter and weigh the other pov's eventually anyway. �The lower log kid may never put the pov's together in the same light for evaluation. Well what do you know? �I had that inclination to treat the kids differently for years, and while writing this post I thought of the reason why. �I wasn't even looking for a justification, someone just asked "what do you think?" 
 Youth lives by personality, age lives by calculation. -- Aristotle on a calendar
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|    Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | kickball | 02/21/11 12:44 AM |  
|    Re: Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | Chrys | 02/21/11 01:31 AM |  
|    Re: Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | kimck | 02/21/11 01:58 AM |  
|    Re: Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | MagnaSky | 02/21/11 02:10 AM |  
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|    Re: Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | Val | 02/21/11 03:26 AM |  
|    Re: Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | Chrys | 02/21/11 02:21 PM |  
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|    Re: Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | st pauli girl | 02/21/11 09:13 PM |  
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|    Re: Outliers, Tiger Moms, and Nature | La Texican | 02/22/11 10:04 PM |  
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