Originally Posted by Grinity
...Ruf level '3 or 4' just plain isn't 'MG or HG' - it's PG, at least by Davidson standards as 'too high to be measured by modern IQ tests'
My dd#1 fits quite comfortably into the developmental descriptions of level 4 on Ruf's levels and I'm pretty sure she is HG. She tested MG at 7, but her raw scores within one IQ subtest ranged from 8-19+, so we're not sure how accurate that is. Her achievement scores border on DYS qualification, but aren't quite there. In our experience, it seems that a level 4 can be below PG, but you are probably right that it isn't MG smile!

On the original question, though, how is your dd's relationship with your dh and how is his opinion of himself? My dh sees some aspects of himself in dd#1 and he has rather awful self esteem. Even with her being very obviously bright (GT id in school, grade skip, IQ scores, 99th percentile achievement scores...) he still says stupid things like, "you know, she has some of me in her too. She's really going to struggly academically." I need a hit him upside the head smilie!

He's always gotten along better with our younger dd and, as a result, thinks that she is brighter and doesn't think that there is something "wrong" with her the way he does our oldest. Fortunately, no one else thinks that dd#1 has anything wrong with her. She's a pretty wonderful 11 y/o.

My point is that some of his denial may be self denial if he relates to your dd at all.