Originally Posted by HappilyMom
Yes! This is the type of "gifted" some programs are seeking really. The well behaved model student with motivation, speed, and memory. We walked away from a "gifted" school which clearly sought that type. They are the easy ones to dress up pretty and show off rather than the quirky EG, PG and 2e kiddos.
Yeah, that's the spot we're in too. The large majority of the kiddos in our GT programming are the high achiever, in the box kids who can spit back out rote learned information very well, read fast, have their hands in the air a lot, teacher pleasers, A student types, but aren't kids who see abstractions, create new ways to do things, etc. My kids have had a harder fit and so many teacher simply misunderstand what gifted looks like IMHO.

That's where I have a hard time with Lohman's, the CogAT author, assertions that achievement and ability are essentially one and the same (and with the NAGC seeming to move in that direction too). It isn't that I am saying that high achievement means that a child isn't gifted, just that it isn't the defining factor in determining giftedness nor is achievement alone, even if very high, (in the absence of an IQ score in the top 2% or so) necessarily enough to support a gifted id.