I guess I'm not very clear in the difference between "what 'is' is.". What is the difference between IQ and the understanding of knowledge?  I thought IQ was the capacity to understand. 
Originally Posted by Bostonian
Since I think intelligence is largely beyond a person's control, I agree
 

Originally Posted by DAD22
I guess I agree with Bostonian to a degree.  By the time students are ready for this lesson about the brain and its supposed muscle-like qualities, the brain's development has already slowed considerably.  In the early years, environmental stimuli and challenges can significantly impact development, but once that window has passed, I'm not inclined to pretend otherwise.  These students may be working in an effort to make themselves smarter, but what they are really doing is making themselves more knowledgeable.

Why not be honest about the situation?  Knowledge can be very rewarding, and is often a prerequisite for understanding.

My oldest child isn't 3 yet, but when the time comes, I think I'll explain to her that her intelligence is like a multiplier for her effort.  Performance = Effort X Intelligence.  Since she appears to have a high intelligence, she can manage a mediocre performance with very little effort.  However, if she wants to  perform at the highest level, considerable effort will be required.


 This  nicely said by lucounu, this is what I would have hoped to get out of sharing the (non-existent) video from the article with my kids and some other folks in the neighborhood.  

Originally Posted by Iucounu
With DS6 what I chose to do is simply to discuss Dweck's research and its implications,  so he won't "psych" himself out when things get tough. It seems to have worked to a large extent, though he still backslides into perfectionism sometimes. I also discussed the J. Renzulli three ring model with him, emphasizing effort further. (From my phone)

I'm not sure if intelligence is beyond a person's control.  Intelligence tests are not good at measuring the end of the curve that's where you'd find people willing to play around with it and find out.  I guess we'll never know.  I do know that not everybody wants to be sharper than they are.  Well, that's what they say anyway.


Youth lives by personality, age lives by calculation. -- Aristotle on a calendar