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    #45296 04/22/09 05:35 PM
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    Swimming Without a Suit


    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/opinion/22friedman.html?em

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    There are millions of kids who are in modern suburban schools �who don�t realize how far behind they are,� said Matt Miller, one of the authors. �They are being prepared for $12-an-hour jobs � not $40 to $50 an hour.�


    Here is some good news resulting from the down economy.

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    With Wall Street�s decline, though, many more educated and idealistic youth want to try teaching. Wendy Kopp, the founder of Teach for America, called the other day with these statistics about college graduates signing up to join her organization to teach in some of our neediest schools next year: �Our total applications are up 40 percent. Eleven percent of all Ivy League seniors applied, 16 percent of Yale�s senior class, 15 percent of Princeton�s, 25 percent of Spellman�s and 35 percent of the African-American seniors at Harvard. In 130 colleges, between 5 and 15 percent of the senior class applied.�

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    �the longer American children are in school, the worse they perform compared to their international peers,�

    that's grim frown

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    From the �Discussion and Implications� portion of the actual report;

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    Lagging achievement is a problem for poor and minority children and for the broad middle class. A large part of the economic cost associated with America�s educational achievement gap is borne by poor and minority communities whose members are unable to reach their potential. But the magnitude of the international gap suggests that the broad middle class in the United States pays a severe price for failing to match the performance of nations with better educational systems. In our observation, parents in poor neighborhoods are all too aware that their schools are not performing well; but middle-class parents typically do not realize that their schools are failing to adequately prepare their children for an age of global competition. Our findings suggest this middle-class complacency is unjustified and should be challenged.


    Besides the overall achievement gap amongst nations and between states, as well as, the racial/economic groups within the U.S., the report states that often school districts within states (having very similar demographics) yield very different achievement results. That is definitely the case, IMO, when comparing course offerings / programs and then nationally normed testing results from the Chicago suburb district of friends to our area.

    Our daughter started out in public school here. Although we felt most of her ps teachers for grades K-2 were pretty strong (they are definitely well compensated here as compared to other areas), the level of expected and actual instruction seemed well below the ability level of almost all of the kids, certainly including ours. Maybe our own elementary districts simply had above average expectations, dh from Fairfax County and MN college area for me, but I think they were just more realistic than the expectations here.

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    All the more reason why the schools should cater to kids like ours.......


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    Delbows - how do you get to the actual report?

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    Sadly the best teacher in the world isn't going to help when they are put into a school system designed to encourage mediocrity and when 95% of the students are from homes that blindly believe the schools are actually doing a good job.

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    delbows,
    Thanks for posting the link to the full report. This part really struck me:

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    Moreover, relatively few states and systems currently put useful and timely data on how individual students are progressing in
    the hands of educators and parents. Given the $600 billion
    that the United States spends annually on its public school
    systems, and the enormous economic stakes riding on
    improved student achievement, it is remarkably shortsighted
    to invest so little in insights about educational
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    ~ What I did not see mentioned in the report is how many, if any, of our "international peers" they are comparing us to, only allow the brightest and richest kids to attend school. I have heard that many other countries do not allow girls, poverty kids, & poor performing kids to stay in school. Are they comparing our students to these countries?
    ~ I do agree that our school system needs reforming, but I hope we are not being compared to other countries that only educate a certaian type of students.
    Food for thought

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