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    Thanks Incog. OT: I am talking to WABC TV about gifted education in NYC in a hour and I had minor eye surgery yesterday so I am holding a cold compress on my eye. But I can do it sideways, or with dark glasses. Dark glasses would be best, what do you think?

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    Originally Posted by Wren
    My point, somewhere, is that how smart is smart? With someone like TT, you can do calculus in your head at 10, and I am not taking anything away from this amazing child, and I hope he finds us a green energy source that employs millions, but how many of the brilliant things accomplished were done by prodigies or just the super smart? I actually do not know.
    I think you're right to suggest that in general, it's not necessarily the case that the very precocious or prodigies go on to contribute more than other very bright but less conspicuous children, and this is something I think about a lot and to me, it's a reason to try to avoid getting DS5 labelled, if we can - I don't want to set up expectations that might leave him feeling like an underachiever for the rest of his life!

    Still, TT is about as far away from being an example of this as can be. He has a Fields medal, that's a pretty good indicator of adult achievement!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao

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    Originally Posted by kcab
    LOL! No - do it sideways, Wren! Dark glasses set up a barrier between the wearer and the outside world.

    Or, put on an eye patch?

    NOW THAT would be an attention getter on par with Barbara Streisand's chewing gum stunt!!!

    "ARRRGH....Educate me kiddies or we'll raid your firms and sell off the peeeces!!"

    Gladwell's "Outliers" is a very important work that buttresses much of what we talk about on here. I listened to it on tape during my commute.

    Precociousness is but one facet. He makes the comment that teachers equate maturity with ability and thus advance older kids over younger ones. The support system of parents and opportunities AND the capacity for hard work are key ingredients, not just precocity.

    Ruf has to defend her work from an academic perspective. She has to select traits that work across most cases and which are recognizable to the broader population. Ruf does have a section on school structure for the GT kid ( and by inference - the general population.) which is interesting to educators. Ruf has also deal with a much greater number of examples over a longer period of time. Her book is aimed more towards those who work with kids more.

    Gross is much more detailed in each case study and gives a more complete picture of each child. And her audience is Australia, not the US - the US is more accepting of elite intellectuals - so she has to present how unique these kids are to a hostile audience. For this reason, Gross' book is more accessible for the parent who has little experience with children.

    Ruf and Gross both state that there is a range of traits and not every child will have all traits. Many kids start speaking before a year - others wait until later. Some start walking early - others wait. Even in TT's case, his verbal skills lagged his math skills making his parents wait on proofs for a time, whereas other kids might have been able to do the proofy stuff earlier due to better verbal skills.

    The one thing that scares me personally is losing the desire to learn. I recently tracked down some classmates and with one exception, they have all plateaued. Their interests have fixed and they are content. They have not continued to grow intellectually and where they were once very interesting to be around and were unsually driven, are now quite rigid in their thinking and have little curiosity about things outside of their expertise.














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    I was so excited to see that my son seemed to fit in somewhere, and I could relate so well to the stories and funny/cute little things that other kids were doing. It was hard to put him at a level at that point, but everything he was doing by age was a solid level 4, a 5 in some areas. While I was excited to see some validation and some answers as to why he was the way he was...I was suddenly aware that there were problems that could come from a child like him and that there were LOG's that I was not aware of before. And that with higher levels came some more challenges. So with the excitement of more understanding came the reality of the challenges ahead.

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    Thanks you so much for your responses you have no ideal how helpful it is.

    Anyway this pretty much somes up what I've been feeling, My DD5 I beleive is also a level 4 and DD4 I beleive is a level 3 (hard to tell for sure with my 4year old she's a sneaky learner and doesn't let me know everything she knows) With the level 4 it states that they can complete grade in about a year and I was already worried about her outgoing her school in a year or two and she's only in K (her school goes up to 8th grade)

    I may start another tread for this, but my next question would be if your child could go through grade school this quickly, should you let them? And provide what is needed to do so? Even if I did nothing she still would go through the material like a force of nature, cause that just the way she is. What would you do?

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    For me, the eye opening book was Leta Hollingworth's "Children Above 180 IQ". Here is a site with references to it: http://hiqnews.megafoundation.org/Children_Above_180_IQ.htm

    The one child of mine who was tested with the old LM did score "very" PG.

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