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    Originally Posted by ebeth
    I think this leads to problems for HG+ kids in that a WISC score of 145 doesn't seem to unusual to them. <but that is a whole separate issue!>

    This is especially problematic if they use a group "IQ" test, like the CogAt for example, to collect the data.

    There is a hella difference between a 145 on the WISC IV and a 145 on the CogAt. The two tests are just not comparable. I don't believe for a second that you can say: If a child scores 145 on the CogAt, then they will score 145 on the WISC IV. I will go so far as to say you can't even say it's likely. Stricly my opinion. I've gotten ahold of a powerpoint from a university in our state that boldly states that the CogAt is actually a more accurate predictor than the WISC IV, so somewhere some studenets are being taught this and some schools are being "sold" this. I find it to be pretty disturbing.

    Luckily for us, our principal gets it. I can't say I would be confident that most school administators understand this, though. Perhaps I am selling these professionals short, though, who knows. ((shrug))

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    This is especially problematic if they use a group "IQ" test, like the CogAt for example, to collect the data.

    There is a hella difference between a 145 on the WISC IV and a 145 on the CogAt.

    Oh yes, 'Neato!!! We had the gifted teacher at DS's school present us with the WISC-IV data at the acceleration meeting last year and comment that DS's WISC-IV and CogAt tests agreed, since they were very close. It was a brush off comment, as in "nothing new here" with the WISC-IV data. And this was from the person who was supposedly trained to teach gifted kids!! mad


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    Well, ebeth. This IS just MY little ole opinion(school adminstrators world round collectively shuddering).

    BTW, here's my favorite definition of shudder:

    shud�der (shdr)
    intr.v. shud�dered, shud�der�ing, shud�ders
    1. To shiver convulsively, as from fear or revulsion

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    Originally Posted by Austin
    Friends recently adopted a child who was horribly abused and neglected. At the time, the child was diagnosed as mildly retarded with very delayed speech. All the child could do was grunt. The foster parents confirmed the "diagnosis"

    I talked to the parents this weekend and they had the child sing to me. This child can speak in complete sentences with both past and future tense in addition to dressing, knowing all the letters, and counting to 20. The child just turned 3.

    One year with the right parents made a huge difference.

    The other point is that the diagnosis was wrong. This child is clearly a very,very smart kid.

    Update on this - I was wrong on her age - the girl just turned two.

    Her vocab is huge - much larger than her older brother.

    The mom wants a copy of Ruf's book. LOL




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