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    Apparently, I posted here like nine years ago about my son. You can read the post I guess. He was hyperlexic at age 2. I was only just cracking the book on this parenting thing, so it's weird to read it. He went off the charts a couple years after that. The school says they have never seen anything like him. He struggles a lot too, socially, but he's pretty extraordinarily gifted at language and math.

    However, I'm back with a second kid and lessons learned. The public school did not push my son academically because they haven't the resources. When they finally did, he improved in all domains, but that wasn't until 5th grade.

    My daughter, who is in second grade, learned almost nothing this year from her teacher and is so catastrophically aggravated. She hates school. Her lexile score is 1050 (which is shockingly high) and her iReady reading sits at 608, well higher than her brother's at that age, despite not having been hyperlexic. She learned to read with everyone else around 5 and 6. She lags behind him slightly in math, but when I say the school hasn't taught her a goddamn thing all year, I mean it. Her lexile scores are pure home-reading and having me for a mom.

    I'm looking for two things. First, how reliable is that lexile score anyway? It can't be right, right? She's practically into high school with that score. Is it possible to just be really good at guessing? Her math score is only a grade or two ahead, but it seems like that's a function of math really needing a teacher while literacy is something I can handle with her. Second, what can I do to squeeze some enrichment out of these people at the school? They ignored my son until it was no longer possible to pretend he didn't need acceleration and I want to rectify this issue with the smaller one before she comes to hate school even more. She hides under her desk and sticks her fingers in her ears because she hates "fundations" and now I have every reason to believe she is not just being difficult. It's baby talk to her and she no longer cares to be a baby.

    I'm broke as a joke and can't afford much on my own, so I need the public schools to pony up. What strategies have you used to get them to cater to the gifted?

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    Nice to hear from you again, perse! And also good to hear that your older one eventually did get what he needed in school.

    As to #2: Her Lexile is indeed quite high for her age. It's also not crazy for a GT kiddo, hyperlexic or no. That's about where one of ours was at that age--reaching what Metametrics would consider college-ready around third or fourth grade. And that's starting from simple decodables just after the fourth birthday. The Lexile is about where the median entering-7th grader was in the MetaMetrics studies. the iReady score is about where the median entering-8th grader was in the relevant studies. So they match up reasonably well, all things considered. (iReady is more focused on decoding at this age, and Lexiles are about comprehension.)

    And math being only a grade or two ahead is likely not only a function of the differential impact of instruction on math (vs reading, which is gated in a fluent decoder mainly by vocabulary and socio-cultural context), but also on the ceiling of the grade two tests. On top of that, there are differences between percentiles (ordinal performance versus age-peers) and grade-level expectations. Consider that the majority (69%) of USA fourth graders read below grade-level on the 2024 NAEP. Most programmatic standardized testing scores reported to parents are taken from tests designed to identify at-risk learners, so the spread below grade-level also is quite a bit more detailed than that above.

    Regarding advocacy: If this is the same district, you have the advantage this time of your older child's experience. (I'm one of a sibling group of GT learners, and the younger sibs definitely benefited from parental advocacy for the older sibs.) (And btw, it actually speaks well of your district's commitment to at-risk learners that they are using Fundations as their tier 1 reading curriculum. It's relatively expensive, and labor-intensive training teachers, but it's also highly effective at catching and remediating readers at-risk of dyslexia early, when implemented correctly. This also suggests your district may have some resources to work with...) And on the advocacy front for Fundations, it does include unit assessments at the higher levels (grade 4 & 5), which might be one way to demonstrate to the district that she can move on from it.

    And if it's a different district, then you can talk wistfully about what a struggle it was to get the past districts to support your son, and how happy you are to be working with this one instead, since they are so much more student-centered. smile

    For our own children, we haven't had to deal with much of this, as we've homeschooled most of K-12. I have worked in schools for longer than I care to think about, though, and can say a few things, in no particular order:

    1. Having a key school staff member as an ally is extremely helpful.
    2. Come prepared with win-win solutions-- these respect teachers' time and expertise, and are also presented as strategies that will help them display their own strengths better.
    3. If the conversation starts to slide toward how this may affect other students, respecfully but firmly re-focus the conversation on your child.
    4. Consider and prioritize the functions and needs that are most impactful for your child, and be willing to compromise on lower-priority items as an act of good faith collaboration.

    indigo has a rather comprehensive roundup of crowd-sourced advocacy tips from over the years. Search for "advocacy roundup" and I think it should come up. I know there are links connected to the "advocacy as a non-newtonian fluid" thread.


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