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    Can anyone recommend an online foreign language program?

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    I think it depends on what your standards and goals are. We have tried a bunch: K-12 (then called -- I think -- PowerGlide), Middlebury/PowerSpeak, and Rosetta Stone (not online, but CD-Rom).

    Across these programs, we tried Latin, German, and French; I speak the latter two (not fluently, but I speak and read at the advanced college level). I would say that K-12 and Middlebury were passable if what you have is a kid who wants some introductory flavor of a language AND who likes an immersion approach. The Rosetta Stone was IMO useless; it taught a few stock phrases ("The girl drinks the water") without any grammar at all. It soon got very boring.

    That said, we have abandoned all of these, because I dislike the immersion approach, and my kids REALLY hate it. They are logical learners; they want verb conjugations and full-on presentations of the cases and so on. The immersion approach is maddening for us, because it presents bits and pieces; at any given time, you can say "I like" and "I liked" but not "he likes" or "he liked" (because the rules aren't explained). At one point, you can say (this is an example from Middlebury French) "The king who plays the flute danced" but not more basic things like, "I would like a cheese sandwich."

    We switched to a textbook approach, and my kids took off. The textbook approach does require a parent who can teach at least the basics of pronunciation and grammar.

    For clarity: we did K-12 languages at the elementary level; Middlebury/PowerSpeak at the middle-school level; and textbooks at the middle- and high-school levels.

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    Originally Posted by GF2
    That said, we have abandoned all of these, because I dislike the immersion approach, and my kids REALLY hate it. They are logical learners; they want verb conjugations and full-on presentations of the cases and so on. The immersion approach is maddening for us, because it presents bits and pieces; at any given time, you can say "I like" and "I liked" but not "he likes" or "he liked" (because the rules aren't explained). At one point, you can say (this is an example from Middlebury French) "The king who plays the flute danced" but not more basic things like, "I would like a cheese sandwich."

    We switched to a textbook approach, and my kids took off. The textbook approach does require a parent who can teach at least the basics of pronunciation and grammar.

    Katherine Beals, author of "Raising a Left-Brain Child in a Right-Brain World", wrote something similar about foreign language instruction:

    http://oilf.blogspot.com/2014/01/how-many-people-iknow-what-grammar-is.html
    How many Americans know what grammar is anymore?
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    Also to blame is America’s foreign language instruction. Though potentially the best way to experience what grammar is, foreign language instruction has been hampered by long-standing fads--and by the fact that it’s hard to teach foreign language grammar to students who haven’t learned basic grammar terminology in language arts class. Today’s top instructional goal (whether in the classroom or in software programs like Pimsleur and Rozetta Stone) is “communicative competence,” with “meaning” (as in vocabulary, phrases, and cultural context) seen as most important and more “meaningful” than formal grammar rules (as in word endings and word order).

    To the extent that students are exposed at all to the latter, it’s more through incidental exposure than through explicit teaching. Instead of doing translation and composition exercises that prompt them to apply the word-formation and word-ordering rules that distinguish the foreign language from English, students get into groups and converse with one another as best they can, passively take in “authentic” dialogues, texts, and cultural artifacts, and create tissue boxes, travel brochures, and skits.

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    Duolingo has a free app that I think is great. It's organized by lessons that are like games, in a way. Very fun and addictive. I'm not sure how advanced it goes because I've only used it for the basics so far. I'm trying to learn German and my daughter is using it for Spanish. I think they also have French, Italian and Portugese. At the very least it seems to be a good starting point!


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