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    I am very suspicious of claims of this kind. The gut-autism link is one that has been pursued by the same people who pursued the spurious vaccine-autism link.

    On mouse studies and autism:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywi...or-from-autism-studies-not-reproducible/

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    Good point. I'm glad that studies are continuing. There is so much more to be learned and many will benefit by understanding ASD. This is a fairly new area therefore research indicating a correlation may need time for further studies to be developed and conducted.

    Personal anecdotes may reveal positive results and inspire hope, but it is wise to be cautious. (Correlation does not mean causation).

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    probiotics did no difference for our kids. But our younger DS3.10, the one who has a formal autism diagnosis (though we're still debating it) is extremely sensitive to dairy and has to be on a 100% casein / dairy free diet. He's now finally starting to talk and communicate but every couple weeks we try little bit of dairy just to see if we're not keeping him on a strict diet for no good reason and just a bit of dairy stops him completely from talking (not a single word from him), he starts screaming, gets aggressive, and it takes a good week for him to get back to normal. BUT I am not convinced it's an Autism diet (both boys are on both Gluten and Casein free diet). I wonder if the kids who react so well to these diets might have other developmental issues and diagnoses that may be misdiagnosed as autism? Both boys have food and environmental allergies so they are prone to being sensitive to all kinds of things.

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    The role of gut bacteria in conditions as diverse as asthma, diabetes (t2) and obesity appears to be an area of active research so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it there was something to this. Not sure about whether it will turn out to be a silver bullet but if it helps some it will be worth it.


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    I'm in the process of trying probiotics with my son, but Dr. Fasano's remarks in the article below about developing resistance gave me pause.

    Dr. Fasano is the Chief, Division of Gastroenterology & Nutrition at Mass General, and he is conducting research on GI issues funded by Autism Speaks.

    Below is an excerpt of the guidance he offers on giving probiotics to children:

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    While I’m extremely sympathetic to parents who want to help relieve their children’s distress, I think we have yet to reach the point where we can say, “Yes, let’s give probiotics a try in children.” Currently, there are only two scenarios where science provides solid support for using probiotics. They include helping relieve food allergies and treating inflammatory bowel disease.

    I have a great concern about widespread use of probiotics. We don’t want to make the mistakes we did in the past with penicillin, for example. We overused this antibiotic and others to the point that many types of bacteria became resistant to them. If we use probiotics the same way as we used penicillin, we may weaken their usefulness as a treatment tool.

    I have other concerns with the probiotics sold today. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not regulate them as medications because they are considered supplements. As a result, there’s little to no quality control. The product you buy may contain ridiculously low levels of probiotics or no “live” probiotics at all. Worse, the probiotics may be mixed with potentially harmful bacteria.


    http://www.autismspeaks.org/blog/2013/01/11/guidance-probiotics


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    I have been using probiotics for my family for many years now - for food allergies and inflammatory digestive conditions. What I can vouch for is that the probiotics help the immune system for sure - we don't get the flu or colds or such things as often as a "typical" person does - we go out and about every day - in elevators, offices, schools and other public venues. I googled it a long time ago and I found some research that probiotics keep the immune system on alert so that it is ready to fight any new infection.
    Another thing that the doctor who originally recommended probiotics told me to do was to rotate the strain of bacteria every 3 months or so. The idea was to get a more broad spectrum of bacteria into the body and also to not let the body get used to the same kind of probiotic bacteria. And this makes sense to me, because many kinds of beneficial bacteria have many different benefits and it is good to introduce many of them. So, I have a few brands of probiotics and I faithfully rotate them every 3 months.
    I am not personally concerned about probiotc bacteria becoming useless due to overuse - there are several ancient culures where fermented probiotic foods have been traditionally eaten for centuries and people have remarkable longevity in those parts of the world (foods like miso, kefir, kombucha etc) . Eating these foods have not diminshed the benefits in several generations of people in those regions of the world.
    As for gut-autism link - I guess that using a probiotic supplement can not hurt - if nothing else, it can improve the immunity and the digestion of the person taking the supplement. And if you wanted to give it to kids, there are several yummy flavors like raspberry, citrus, chocolate, mint etc. I am sure that it is not a hardship for little kids to take them.

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    The full text of the article (linked in my post above) refers to supplements, not probiotics that naturally occur in foods. In fact, he recommends yogurt.


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