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    Kriston #16649 05/23/08 07:35 AM
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    true, true. But Callie's character has always been written to imply insecurity and arrested emotional development.

    I still don't like to see MOST intelligent, competent, decisive, successful, kick-a$$ female character on the show portrayed as, duh, lesbian.

    Probably stems from personal ghosts of my previous career in investments. Had to manuever around a lot of hostile mysogynistic people(hello....men AND women) who were not comfortable with women like Hahn's character meeting with success.

    Kriston #16654 05/23/08 07:44 AM
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    Originally Posted by Kriston
    (And I'm here procrastinating because I don't want to clean the house for DS6/7's birthday part tomorrow! LOL!)

    Oooo - birthday party at Kriston's house! Sounds like fun! Happy birthday Kriston's DS. smile

    I would have to say I'm in line with your thinking (re Gray's/lesbianism in film). My BF and I were talking about it last night. However, my BF is bothered more by where we live. When she and her girlfriend visited us they were aghast at the stick figure of a man plus the stick figure of a woman equals marriage signs in people's yards. My BF has the double whammy of being both a lesbian and a person of color.

    incogneato #16655 05/23/08 07:45 AM
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    Yup. I hear you on Hahn.

    But not so much on Callie.

    I buy Callie as insecure, but I'm not sure I accept the "arrested emotional development." Can you show me where you see that? Maybe in marrying George, but I see that less as arrested development and more as wishful thinking that he could love her back. More insecurity.

    And even if I accept that her development is really arrested, is it SO arrested that she never knew she likes girls? I mean, c'mon on! How clueless would you have to be?


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    Ann #16658 05/23/08 07:54 AM
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    Can't believe I missed that one:

    Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birtday Kriston's DS' and possible my future son-in-laws 20 years from now, happy birthday to you!



    And many, more..........!

    incogneato #16659 05/23/08 07:56 AM
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    Tee hee hee! Thanks, friends! (And future in-laws!) grin

    It's been a busy week for birthday parties around here!


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    incogneato #16660 05/23/08 07:57 AM
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    Remember in the beginning of the series when she lived in the basement....flash forward to finding out she is disgustingly wealthy with an incredibley domineering father who infantizes her?

    Sheesh.....I outta start chargin for this. smile

    By the way, I tried to enlarge the text with color on the birthday song, must have done it wrong. I hope your boys have an awesome birthday celebration!!!!!!!!

    Ann #16661 05/23/08 07:59 AM
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    Originally Posted by Ann
    I would have to say I'm in line with your thinking (re Gray's/lesbianism in film). My BF and I were talking about it last night. However, my BF is bothered more by where we live. When she and her girlfriend visited us they were aghast at the stick figure of a man plus the stick figure of a woman equals marriage signs in people's yards. My BF has the double whammy of being both a lesbian and a person of color.


    Are these actual signs in yards? I'm confused. Is this in response to the CA ruling on gay marriage?

    Sorry to be slow on the uptake, but I've never seen such signs...


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    incogneato #16662 05/23/08 08:01 AM
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    OMG I totally missed that - good catch Neato - BOTH your boys are celebrating tomorrow. Wow! You've got your hands full. I hope you are able to take the following day off to relax and drink a nice bottle of wine. You'll have more than earned it after birthday mania. Smile.

    incogneato #16664 05/23/08 08:03 AM
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    Originally Posted by incogneato
    Remember in the beginning of the series when she lived in the basement....flash forward to finding out she is disgustingly wealthy with an incredibley domineering father who infantizes her?

    Sheesh.....I outta start chargin for this. smile


    LOL!

    Yes, I guess I do remember that. It's so long ago, I forgot all about it. (Or maybe it was such a stupid bit of writing that I willfully ignored it so that I could keep watching the show...)

    Okay, I'll rethink...Hmmm...I dunno. I still have trouble believing that any grown woman who has as much sex as Callie does has no idea she's attracted to women. Really?


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    Ann #16665 05/23/08 08:05 AM
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    Yes there really were signs in people's yards. This was prior to the CA ruling. I live in a southern state - prop something or other. I can't remember now. When we went for a walk, I was surprised at how many signs there were. There are many reasons why we don't quite fit in our neighborhood, but I try to not ruffle any feathers. I think my neighbors assume we're "one of them."

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