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    So teacher says that MAP testing measures other things outside of the Everyday Math curriculum that my child has (to endure) in his classroom. Anyone else have this going on? Why do they administer MAP testing then?

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    What do you mean? MAP is an out of level test. It gets harder as kids answer questions correctly and easier when they get the wrong. My first grader is scoring in the 95th percentile of fourth graders. Of course his EDM (which I HATE EDM) does not cover the material that is covered in his classroom.

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    I believe MAPs is best when used to measure growth over a period of time.

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    Just in looking at the subject line, here, let me just add that as far as I can tell, EveryDay Math doesn't align very well with reality, either.


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    Originally Posted by HowlerKarma
    Just in looking at the subject line, here, let me just add that as far as I can tell, EveryDay Math doesn't align very well with reality, either.

    Hilarious! In trying to lobby for acceleration, the teacher tells me that the MAP test doesn't align with EDM. So, she said it's great that DS excels with "regular math" (MAP test), but since he doesn't excel in EDM, she disagrees with an acceleration. She gets a vote. How the heck do I deal with this?

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    Mana, the Other Person To Get A Vote Is The Principal....Who BaSes her Vote On The teacher

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    Originally Posted by somewhereonearth
    In trying to lobby for acceleration, the teacher tells me that the MAP test doesn't align with EDM. So, she said it's great that DS excels with "regular math" (MAP test), but since he doesn't excel in EDM, she disagrees with an acceleration. She gets a vote. How the heck do I deal with this?

    Ask the team that makes the acceleration decision to give your ds a test that *does* measure EM curriculum achievement, since the MAP doesn't. Seriously... I am sure they must have some type of end-of-year assessments or end-of-unit assessments that they could give to your ds - not just the year he's in but ahead of grade level.

    Also ask for the specifics of why the teacher is saying he doesn't excel in EM - if you haven't already got that info. If you have that info, I'm curious what she's saying is happening. Our kids didn't have EM but they had a similar curriculum in early elementary and there were a lot of group projects, measuring things, making charts etc as a group. And there were tons of "explain your work in three different ways" problems. So - perhaps the issue isn't his mastery of the math concepts involved, but his mastery of group project work or mastery of ability to put his thoughts into words to describe an overly simple math problem - I'm just guessing that chances are it has nothing to do with actual math!

    Another point to bring up - not that they'll appreciate it - but fwiw, one of the concepts behind EM is that everything repeats itself, cycles through, so that a concept is introduced early (let's say making a chart from your data, for example)... it's done once or twice, then left behind, then revisited the next year, then left behind quickly, then revisited again and so on and so on... the problems may get a bit more complicated as the grade level moves up, but the general idea is repeating cycles with the same concepts (at least that's how it worked in the places I've seen EM). Completely BORING and non-necessary for a HG/+ child, right? So you might be able to argue something in that direction...

    Last thought, if lack of EM mastery is the only reason they put forward for not accelerating, offer to tutor him in what he needs to learn in EM over the summer so that he's ready across the board next fall when he steps into that accelerated class laugh

    And if all else fails, I'd after-school him all the way through Pre-Algebra and let him take the test (can't remember the name of it, but it's widely used) that is supposed to predict a student's readiness to take Algebra. That would most likely through the team for a loop lol (and I"m only half joking there!).

    How many weeks of school do you have left? Do you think that other than EM everything looks ok (per the staff) for an acceleration, or do they have other areas they are arguing against acceleration?

    Hang in there!

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    EM really excels at making a kid who's naturally good at math completely HATE math class. I am so, so happy the charter school doesn't use it.


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    Our district also uses every day math. My son's rit score in Spring math NWEA MAP was 262. It was a huge improvement since fall. He did a little Alek online after fall which seemed to help. He takes math in Spanish which is not his native language so I think it helped with vocabulary. Our district uses 250 as the minimum to have the opportunity to test out of pre-algebra. It's a fairly high performing district.

    Eveyday math uses a spiral idea... touching on a concept and then revisitng again later. Your story is interesting because I would assume the teacher distrcit would use a high RIT score to argue Everyday Math is fabulous. (I am not sure I agree..)

    Did anyone else see a big difference this year between Fall and Spring?

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