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    ...and can someone do extended norms for me and a GAI score.

    Okay, dd, just turned 6, was just tested and was sick with a tummy bug that day too. Diarrhea during testing, threw up that night, poor baby.

    So here are the scores, I just got the report in my email after 10 tonight and have no clue what I am looking at...

    VCI- Composite 148, 99.9 percentile
    Similarities- raw 32, scale 19, 99.9 precentile
    Vocab- raw 48, scale 19, 99.9 percentile
    Comprehension- raw 20, scale 16 98 percentile

    PRI- composite 153, greater that 99.9 percentile
    block design- raw 46, scale 18, 99.6 percentile
    picture concepts- raw 24, scale 19, 99.9 percentile
    matrix reasoning- raw 22, scale 19, 99.9 percentile

    WMI- 110, 75 percentile

    PSI- 112, 79 percentile

    FSIQ- 144

    So it appears her Working memory and processing speed are pulling down her full scale and I would like to know the General Ability Index since there is such a descrepency.

    Also, I know she ceilinged on a lot of the test so does anyone know how to calculated extended norms.

    The tester in the report wrote that she should be considered for admissions to the Davidson Youth Scholar program. She also took the WIAT, and her Total Achievement on that was a 150, greater than 99.9 percentile

    So can anyone tell me what I am looking at? What do those scores mean and the lower Working memory and processing mean? Are these dys scores? HELP please.

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    Okay I just googled and I think I figured out the GAI- I added the scaled scored of the subtests for VCI and PRI- and looked at the table, the sum of scaled scores was 110 and so GAI is 160. Is that right?


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    You will find the extended norms table at http://www.pearsonassessments.com/N...C-8E4A114F7E1F/0/WISCIV_TechReport_7.pdf These are well above the DYS threshold scores. Even with the lower WM and PSI included, you're only one point below the cutoff. Do you have achievement scores? If you don't, I think you should be putting together a portfolio now to apply ASAP.

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    Thanks Elizabeth. I do have achievement scores, for the WIAT-III they are

    Oral Language- 149 greater than the 99.9 percentile
    Written Expression- 133 99th percentile
    Mathematics- 157, greater than the 99.9 percentile
    Total Achievement- 150, greater than the 99.9 percentile


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    Okay the tester was awake and emailed me back LOL, the GIA is 160. My head is spinning.


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    Okay, so I was looking at the table, and I am not sure if I did this right can anyone tell me.

    SI is similarities, so her raw score of 32 gives her an exteded scaled score of 22
    VC is vocabulary, so her raw score of 48 gives her an extended score of 26
    CO is comprehension and hers stays the same at a scaled score of 16

    BD is block design and her raw score is 46 and her scaled stays an 18
    PCn is picture concepts and her raw score is 24 and so her extended scaled score is now 23
    MR is matrix reasoning and her raw score of 22 and her scaled score stays a 19

    So her GAI extended is now 180
    and her FSIQ extended is now 153

    Is this correct. I am using the chart for 6:0 to 6:3 as she turned 6 a week before she took this test


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    I would be asking I'd the processing speed score may have been lowered by slow careful working or anxiety, given the timed tests like block design are quite high still. Even if not I would wonder whether the boring/effortfull tests (wm/psi) were more impacted by illness than the more interesting ones (vci and pri)

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    Thanks MumOfThree. I definitely think it could have been, but it also doesn't surprise me that it was a lot lower because DD is slow and Dh and I have often wondered if there was ADHD or something going on although that diagnosis never fit entirely. DD also doesn't see a point in doing somethings so I have to wonder if some of those tasks which were not as interesting she just didn't really care about. I am asking her tester who just emailed me her GAI of 160 to include that in the report. I feel it is a better indicator of giftedness that her FSIQ even though FSIQ is still quite high.

    So has anyone had a chance to see if I did the extended norms right???


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    My dd is also not a super fast child (slower than a wet week comes to mind regularly) but her coding score would still have been much higher had she been cooperative. She did exactly two of each item (perfectly), put down her pencil and then watched the clock for the second half of the available time. She scored 10, in half the time, with no errors... And the psychologist saw nothing odd or problematic about this. I would not have even known if I hadn't been there...

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    Wow, crazy momofthree that they saw nothing odd with that. I am not sure if any of that happened with dd. I think the tester would have told me as she was very forth coming during the breaks she and dd took. DD took several breaks, bathroom, lunch, etc. I am waiting on the tester to email me back answering a few questions I had. I asked for her to add the GAI to the official report, and i asked about extended scoring since when I look at DD's raw scores and the norms chart her FSIQ comes up quite a bit since she ceilinged on 4 test, 3 of which her scaled score changes quite a bit with the extended scoring. I also asked her in her opinion how will the slower than her PRI and VCI processing and working memory scores effect her. Hoping to here back soon but I did tell her not to rush- she tends to shoot off an email inbetween clients are classes when she is busy and thinks you are waiting and does not answer all of the questions, so I let her know I wasn't in a rush and hopefully that way she will actually take the time and answer all of them LOL. Or I will call her wink


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