Gifted Issues Discussion homepage Forums General Discussion A bone-headed NY Times editorial

I'm not, but it seems to be important to Bostonian for some reason.

I can't speak for NYC except by reputation, but I have spent some time around DC, and based on my experience I'd say you're probably lowballing that 50%.

I was called away to Japan on a business trip and am just catching up. Normally I would have let this thread die except for Dude's comment:

Discrimination makes me upset. If that counts as being a polititroll, then sign me up for a leadership position. Why doesn't discrimination make you upset? Never mind, on second thought, I am really not interested in your smug answers.


The reality of NYC is that the majority of people are middle to lower class and some of them strive for good schools. The fact that the same income would be middle class in a different city is rather beside the point. First, people are resistant to moving, and second, the same job (e.g. laundromat owner, bus driver) might not be middle in another city due to lower pay.

Maybe next time, let the thread die by not posting it in the first place.

My commute is 10 minutes.

And that's in heavy traffic.

I can walk my kids to school (and normally do) and I also have no snow.

I grew up in PA and spent time in both NYC and DC growing up (in fact, I specifically avoided working in BigLaw there), so I know for a fact that I'm not lowballing it.

I really don't like cold weather.

I took a 40% pay cut to escape billing hours in a law firm (and to escape the snow).

I think we agree here, but something got lost in translation. When I say you're lowballing the 50%, I'm saying the quality of life degrades by more than 50%, it's actually worse than that.

Like you, I left a dense, expensive metro area (Southern CA) and took a 25% pay reduction to improve my family's quality of life in Hurricane Alley.

I be sure to consider your opinion for what I think it is worth.

Priceless.

I guess that I can't help but read that article with some inherent bias. I went to college (an ivy)with many students from Stuyvesant and Hunter, and many of them were middle and lower-middle class, including first-generation immigrants. To me, I always thought the exam school system was a great way to level the playing fields for the economically disadvantaged who couldn't afford the exorbitant private prep schools. Of course, the problem is really, as Val described, that there are not enough slots for all deserving students. By the time you get to these exclusive high schools, it really is less about your IQ, and more about the complete package of intelligence, achievement, discipline and dedication.