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    While reading the Wikipedia article on hothousing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hothousing I saw Gordon Brown (the U.K. prime minister before David Cameron) mentioned as someone who was "hothoused" and a reference to an article

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1811255.ece
    �Cruel� experiment that left its mark on a very precocious boy:
    The Chancellor resents having been a guinea-pig in a pilot project that put him on a fast track to university
    Ben Macintyre
    The Sunday Times
    May 19, 2007

    At the age of 10 Gordon Brown became, in his own words, a guinea-pig. On the basis of an IQ test, he was plucked from his primary school in Fife to join a select group of intellectually gifted children at Kirkcaldy High School, one of the best secondary schools in Scotland.

    For the next six years, the young Brown and 35 fellow members of the so-called E-stream (standing for early) were nurtured in an academic hothouse, taught in separate classes, expected to excel despite being one or two years younger than their peers, and rigorously prepared for university.

    Some thrived on the pressure. Some floundered. A few suffered. Mr Brown was the most precocious product of the E-stream, sailing on to Edinburgh at the age of 16 and then becoming the youngest ever rector of that university. Yet he loathed and resented what he described as a ludicrous experiment on young lives.

    Much has been written about the Scottish roots of this �son of the manse� with �psychological flaws�, according to his enemies, and a granite sense of purpose, according to his friends. Yet little attention has been paid to this crucial aspect of his childhood, the years he spent being fast-tracked through school as part of an artificial intellectual elite.

    The experiment was abandoned in 1967 but may have marked Mr Brown in various ways. He will be the most avowedly intellectual Prime Minister since Churchill, an avid reader and writer who declared this week: �Education is my passion.� Yet his past as a child prodigy, selected for greatness and schooled to be special, may also explain the weight of expectation and the sense of entitlement that surround him, and what some see as a controlling personality and an intensely serious cast of mind.

    The Old Etonian David Cameron is often seen as a product of a very particular sort of education, but the old school influence may weigh just as heavily on Mr Brown. Transferred to the E-stream, leapfrogging two years, he was expected to take control of his academic life at a time when most schoolchildren are still mastering joined-up writing. By 12 he was specialising in history; by 14, he was taking his School Leaving Certificate.

    The E-Stream project was the invention of Douglas Mackintosh, the chief education officer of Fife County Council, as a way of pushing more state school students on to university. Pupils with an IQ above 130 were informed that they were being moved to secondary school a year early, and not just any secondary school. Kirkcaldy High School celebrates its 425th birthday next month (Mr Brown, inevitably, will unveil a plaque), and there are few schools in the country with a more impressive academic record. Its alumni include the economist Adam Smith and the architect Robert Adam. Thomas Carlyle was once a teacher. Even the school motto seems to echo Mr Brown�s driven personality: Usque Conabor, always strive hard.

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    This article puzzles me. What it describes as a "cruel experiment" sounds like a place I would WANT to send my gifted son.


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    yes, me too but it says they would pull pupils with IQs above 130. I have 2 children that meet that criteria but only 1 of them would thrive there. My kids have a 30 pt IQ spread between them. DS (the higher score) has the academic/intellectual superpowers and can locomotive through material very quickly, has done very well with triple accelerations in school, has a passion for learning, etc. DD is more the enrichment type and has to put in extra effort in her 1 yr acceleration program, loves art, writing, music but screams and runs away if you say "Math". So, if they were just plucking kids based on the 130 IQ score I can see how it would be disastrous for some children.

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    Originally Posted by AntsyPants
    So, if they were just plucking kids based on the 130 IQ score I can see how it would be disastrous for some children.
    Exactly!
    Thanks for sharing Bostonian - I agree - the program sound terrific to me too. But I think that we gifties will always look back with regret at the parts that didn't work out. Since we can't live twice and see how any individual would have turned out if they hadn't been gotten special programing, we'll never know how thing would have been.

    The important thing to notice here is -
    1) The number of state students attending university probably did increase!
    2) Leaving a kid with above grade level needs at grade level is also an 'intervention' with it's own consequences.
    2) The tone of the article is so interesting, it assumes we'll all shake our heads in condemnation at the 'poor babies.' I'd love to read an article about the reverse situation with the same tone:
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    My life was changed forever when I was chosen to be a test subject in a project to teach small children to handle boredom.
    In a bold initiative to make the world a better place by teaching early elementary school children to handle boredom, a select group of children with IQs over 130 are placed with their agemates in classrooms where they already know over 80% of the material to be covered for the year! Some succeded brilliently and taught themselves to 'zone out' into profound trances that prepared them for the boredom of adult life, while other dear little tots broke under the pressure and needed hospitalization. Even the ones who succeded have permanent character defects: "Well,says one, I do spend an awful lot of time posting on GIDF."
    Another effect that caries into adulthood is a noted tendency towards perfectionism - making a big deal of minor defects, like inability to spell, and feeling terrible about it.

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    Originally Posted by Grinity2
    The tone of the article is so interesting, it assumes we'll all shake our heads in condemnation at the 'poor babies.' I'd love to read an article about the reverse situation with the same tone:
    Originally Posted by grinity's fanticy
    My life was changed forever when I was chosen to be a test subject in a project to teach small children to handle boredom.
    In a bold initiative to make the world a better place by teaching early elementary school children to handle boredom, a select group of children with IQs over 130 are placed with their agemates in classrooms where they already know over 80% of the material to be covered for the year! Some succeded brilliently and taught themselves to 'zone out' into profound trances that prepared them for the boredom of adult life, while other dear little tots broke under the pressure and needed hospitalization. Even the ones who succeded have permanent character defects: "Well,says one, I do spend an awful lot of time posting on GIDF."
    Another effect that caries into adulthood is a noted tendency towards perfectionism - making a big deal of minor defects, like inability to spell, and feeling terrible about it.

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    I thought the tone of the article was very interesting. I kept waiting for the part where I was supposed to be horrified by the way the students were treated. Sure, perhaps it wasn't for everyone, but it sounds like an amazing opportunity for many of our kids.

    And Grinity, I share your fantasy! LOL about the character deficits!


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    I guess I don't get it- unless the children were forced (by being plucked) and the families were told they must accept this option, I don't get the "cruel experiment". It strikes me as a welcome quality for a PM to be well read and well educated and to be an advocate for the educational opportunities of others.

    I often read through this type of critique with a lens of existential depression in my mind. Would he have resented a classroom full of people who were not well read, highly motivated and had an educational focus? Was he doomed to be unsatisfied regardless of his educational setting?

    Perhaps the program should have also had a SENG counselor on staff. It appears that may have alleviated some of the pressure.

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    The article

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article721626.ece
    Truth about the class of '67
    by Kenny Farquharson
    The Sunday Times
    May 21, 2006

    has a more detailed look at the school and lets one understand why Brown criticized it. I still don't think the schol was a bad idea. Students who find an elite school too demanding should be able to transfer to different schools without feeling that they are failures.



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