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Well that on that note - if you are mid-30s you also need to use the pre-recentering conversion chart

I am so glad that someone has asked this as I have been curious about myself since learning about my DD. I would love to know my scores but sure do not have the money to pay for such a test. The raven site is in Spanish... It looks like the test is a non-verbal test and it does not matter about the Spanish. There are some directions and I can not decipher them.... One thing I would like to know is how long is the test?

Use google translate. I believe it's 40 mins, there is a counter of sorts as you go along so possibly it will self terminate, I m not sure though as it only took me about 20. Note that you can actually go back and change things if you like, there are back and forward buttons.

Something I wonder about, but have been too embarrassed to ask is what people here think if the various attempts at high range IQ tests floating around the internet. I have never paid much attention to them until I stumbled across this guy's site when looking at my local Mensa website.

http://psiq.org/lux/

I have seen threads here discussing the need for DYS type kids to grow up and design and norm tests to differentiate at the tail. If people are already trying to make high range tests should we be supporting them or are they not to be taken seriously?

In the spirit of confession I did a couple of the tests from the link above and found them very entertaining but was surprised by how well I did on them which makes me skeptical. That said others I couldn't even figure out what the question meant! Although it did bring me to an interesting realisation that IQ tests in my experience do seem to be mostly exceedingly easy until you just can't do more. Binary rather than a sliding scale. Does that make sense? Either you can "see" it, or you can't. The Raven's test had two questions I couldn't get and I knew I was just guessing (and got wrong), there were a few that I had to think about a little but for the most part it was a doddle. The ones I did not know I concluded I did not know pretty much as fast as the ones I knew, I then spent some time trying to nut them out but it didn't really change anything...And that is pretty much what a I saw when watching my DDs do their IQ tests. In general they could answer fairly immediately or they could not answer correctly at all and thinking harder did not change things much (with some exceptions, block design takes a little time and checking for example).

Ok, I have gone off on a lot of tangents now. Sorry.

A link to the newer norms for the raven's

http://www.tedaltenberg.com/cabrillo/cis132/final/scoringmatrix.php

There is a 1995 book

http://www.amazon.com/Test-Your-IQ-Hans-Eysenck/dp/0140249621
Test Your IQ
by Hans J. Eysenck and Darrin Evans

containing eight IQ tests that one can purchase for $4 used on Amazon (which has many member reviews of it). Eysenck was a prolific British psychologist who wrote a controversial 1971 book "The IQ argument: race, intelligence, and education" and a 2000 book "Intelligence: A New Look".

Ha, it was a previous book of his (Know your own IQ) that my parents had kicking around at home when I first came across the idea of IQ. As a pre-teen I did all the tests in the book over the course of a year or so, getting numbers everywhere from 130 to 220 (IIRR). So I vote invalid!

I am honored to know someone with a 220 IQ.

Well, if there are eight tests, averaging the scores should reduce noise. From what I have read in your other posts, you are a math professor, and your son is profoundly gifted. I vote valid .

:-~ Around here you may well be, but it ain't me ;-)

The scatter was so great that my own conclusion was that one shouldn't trust any of the numbers at all. I'll accept that I used to be quite bright in those days ;-)