Yes I agree w/ CAmom. There's a reason why IQ tests are supposed to be kept secret.....you can teach to the test. You can build those skills I think by enough points to get the gifted label. Not sure you can do it enough to get a HG or PG label but enough to get into those NYC schools. Those kids aren't going to look that different at 17.

A friend and I had a discussion along these lines yesterday. Her DD has gifted IQ (PRI>>VCI) but always has average achievement. Is she gifted? yet she took the MAP math test and was able to figure out math problems in algebra (she's in 4th grade) she's not been exposed to....in a way that wouldn't make sense to me lol but she got the right answer. yet on a grade level achievement tests (school tests and WJIII) she scores average. yet another psych did a quick IQ test on her and said she was definitely HG. She is definitely this quirky out of the box thinker. But she wouldn't fit the definition here of HG w/ HG IQ and HG achievement. I should also add she's ADHD and perhaps an undiagnosed reading issue although she reads very well now...just didn't click until 4th grade and still has horrendous spelling issues.

Dazey