Thanks Kriston! I was hoping you would put in your 2 cents. I've been having him do 1-2 pages of Handwriting Without Tears, which has been okay. He prints everything else. We tried dictating to me but it was a bit awkward. We could try it again. I haven't even tried editing at this point. I could still see it was an issue. I think you all have given me some good ideas for a reasonable goal- Many thanks! Update-he's 'quit school' but is in the chair reading high school physics book. I think that counts as science for the day-