Hi Over42,

This was our son. At 3, he articulately told me in now way he would be trained. The next day, I took his diaper off as soon as he woke up and I stood in front of his door, not letting him out until he peed in the little potty chair in his room. It was a battle of the wills. He refused and proceeded to walk in circles, trying to hold it in. Finally, he ran over to the chair and did it. That's how he was finally trained. I believe gifted kids do not like change and their wills are stronger than normal kids. He's 27 now and getting a Ph.d in Lit. Difficult to raise but he's a joy to be with, now. I feel your frustration, having lived it. --San