Originally Posted by polarbear
Seconding blackcat's advice.

FWIW, I also have some questions - these aren't meant to pick apart your concerns, but might help you look at this from the ped's perspective. The ped, also, has actually seen your child - which is something none of us here have had an opportunity to do. Anyway, I'm not clear from your post if you're concerned that OCD/ASD might be present, or if you want to rule it out. Also not entirely clear if you're wanting confirmation of giftedness and are concerned that you need to be addressing the potential gifted abilities. One thing that is confusing to me is - how is your 18-month old able to put his dishes in the sink and turn off lights? Please note, I'm not questioning that he's doing this, but my limited experience with 18-month olds, light switches and sinks makes me question it because of height. Is it possible your ped is hearing things that just don't make sense to the ped from the normal realm of childhood and therefore discounted not only those things, but other things you brought up? Also think about how you presented what you were talking about - if you're seeking a referral make it up front, clear, direct, and have reasons to support it.

We've had issues with a ped and early childhood drs in our family in one specific instance with a child who had medical issues that didn't fit the norm of what the drs were used to seeing. Two big roadblocks that were difficult were: 1) dr's ego - drs who felt they were being questioned when we weren't able to report back what they expected to hear, and 2) limited time during an office visit - our dd's drs were heavily booked and didn't expect to have to spend more than a few minutes with each patient, and became annoyed when we had more than a few minutes worth of questions that weren't easily answered.

Another issue we ran into (same dd) were drs who made assumptions based on behaviors/etc they saw within the limited timeframe of an office visit - which is an environment that the child isn't usually living in, hence isn't exactly the best illustration of "typical" behavior for the child. It sounds like there's a possibility that in your situation the dr is seeing a child with no behavior issues partly because they are observing in a limited window... a work-around for refocusing on true issues is to have a list with you that you've put together before the appointment, listing what you see as concerning behaviors.

My advice is to take a step back, clearly define in your own mind what it is you're seeking, find supporting evidence, and try again with a new dr. Think through the roadblocks you might encounter at that dr visit and be prepared with a plan if they pop up - for instance, if the dr seems to be short on time, let them know you have more questions and ask if you can leave a list and have them call back or schedule a follow-up visit, or ask what you can do to get your questions answered. etc.

The other thing to do: filter your list to only include pieces of data/info that fit with what you are concerned about or make sense in the story you are trying to convey. For instance, in your OP you mention toilet training, the dr said don't worry about it until your ds is 3, you're noticing signs of readiness. In reading the post, it's not clear to me how this relates to what your concerns are - I hear the dr saying that not being ready to toilet train isn't an issue until 3 (which mirrors everything I heard as a parent of young toddlers), and I also hear you saying you see signs of readiness so you're frustrated that the dr is mentioning don't worry about it yet... but I don't understand how any of this applies to your concerns you're trying to follow up on with the dr re ASD/OCD - which is, I think, your priority concern. I realize this sounds like I'm picking your OP to pieces, and really I'm not - just trying to make a point, when you have very limited time with a dr, you'll want to be as clear as possible and not get off-focus with extra questions/etc.

Hope this makes sense!

Best wishes,

polarbear

ps - this is just a total guess, but I'm wondering if part of the reluctance to finish off the 18-month check at the 17-month visit was vaccine schedules - there are several boosters/vax required in our state at 18 months which can't be given sooner.


Polarbear, your post was SO helpful! Thank you! To explain, we have a couple low light switches and if we are carrying him, he signs and reaches for the switch. For the dishes, there is a step stool in the kitchen that he moves around and climbs onto and puts dishes into the sink. He asks for help a lot, but he is very tall for his age (just shy of 3'), so he can easily reach door handles and such. I think I'm unhappy with her dismissal because she seems to think that because I was concerned about DS having ASD/OCD that he couldn't be as advanced as I was letting on. When we fill out those questionnaires about milestones, DH and I would discuss out loud what he was able to do/not do and she kept giving us weird looks when we said he could do something out of the norm for his age...like we were lying. Like you'd imagine,the kid I have at home is different than the one I bring to the dr.
Regarding the potty training, I'm just wondering how I can trust her to give me accurate advice for MY son, not just the norm. I had already explained to her that he was telling us when he peed in his diaper and when he wants changed. He prefers taking off his own pants each night after we unbutton and unzip them. Those to me are signs and while I'm in no hurry and don't mind the diaper phase (he's already growing up too fast), I don't want to miss opportunities or give him the wrong message.
I'm not so concerned about being labeled as gifted because it doesn't change anything, but the OCD/ASD would require further action on our part and I'd rather intervene early than late. DH's uncle is ASD/OCD (also HG) and we see A LOT of the same behaviors in DS and they don't spend any time together.
I appreciate your critique of how I can maximize my time with his pedi and how to best get what I'm after. I'm terrible at being concise and concrete. I will definitely be making a short list of my questions/concerns and ask for a referral. If we still get the brush off, then I know it'll be time for a new pedi for sure.