but not all places have advanced or honours courses? And I read somewhere the other day about some areas allocation places by lottery? So for some people their 4 may be equal to someone elses 5? So you only have full grades (at university we had a+, a, a-, b+, b, b-, c+, c, c-, I think a+ was 8 and c- was 0. I never got a c- and I am not sure whether it was actually a passing mark. I thing the GPA was only calculated for awarding honours.