Originally Posted by ElizabethN
]While in general I agree with you wholeheartedly, I personally can testify that it's possible to get a Ph.D. from MIT and a JD from Harvard without learning these skills. I'm finally developing some of them now.

I'm absolutely certain you can get the Harvard J.D. without effort. The good law schools are a joke.

I'm actually surprised about the Ph.D., since that requires actually producing something and defending it. Meaning that you have to grind out research and produce a significant document.