Thank you for a little ray of hope. My 8 year old has successfully tied them once. Just once... but that one time was countless hours of tears and frustration. He hasn't tried again since and I haven't pushed it.

On a related note, I work in a middle school and the day of graduation I saw another classmate tie a girl's shoes in 8th grade. I asked her if she was hurt, not to be sarcastic but because I was surprised she didn't bend over. She said "No, I'm just slow at tying so she always does them for me." I thought that was so sweet, particularly for a middle school girl!