DS at 2 years was tough to get to sleep - he wanted endless stories and then DD was born so that just made it more complicated with a baby in the house. Unfortunately, it was not really until he started school at 4 that we got to an early bedtime and normal sleep routine, and we suspect it was simply not enough mental stimulation during the day at daycare (they ran around a lot and played but it did not tire him out as much as his current school does). Before that, while he was 2 and 3, we were lucky to get him to bed before 9PM.

DD was a better sleeper but even with her, we stopped her naps at 3 at her current school because every time she napped, bedtime would not come until 10PM or later. At 3.5, it does mean that some days, she falls asleep on the way home, but she gets up at our normal time with no problem so she is getting what she needs. Occasionally, if the day was really busy and tiring, she will drift asleep for a short nap.