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    inky #84095 09/01/10 01:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by inky
    ". . . For as much as the world has benefited from the contributions of gifted individuals, it is disturbing, to this writer, to realize that the population least likely to learn and achieve its potential is the highly gifted."
    ~ Joseph Cardillo
    This line of thinking in general makes me very uncomfortable. I'm really hesitant to put this level of expectation on any child. Also there is a fallacy involved - a child with no signs of giftedness at all all through school may turn out to make a huge contribution, and then be trumpeted as 'highly gifted.' There is little date linking Adult achievement with childhood LOG. Probably because of the frustrations these children routinely face in school, but maybe not.

    Then I feel that this argument flips so quickly into 'see, they don't need special education - look at all they have achieved under the current system.

    In the end I think that it's better to stick to the moral high ground and say: We want to help all children have a reasonable shot at going to school, developing good work habits, and being in classrooms that teach to their readiness level.

    or - to put it anther way -
    We don't want special treatment, we just want a level playing field. The average child gets lots of chances to learn how to learn at school. That's what we want for our kids too.

    ((hugs))
    Thanks for giving me the change to make this point again - I love making it!

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    A good point and it should be made often. I had a different take on the quote but can see how it could be interpreted another way. I wasn't looking at it as "we should meet the needs of the gifted because they have the most to offer to society." Instead I saw it as "the gifted are the most likely not to get their needs met even though they have much to offer." It's a subtle difference and I'm glad you pointed out how easy it is to cross the line into uncomfortable territory. smile

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    "A child's intellect is shown not so much in what he knows but in the questions he asks"
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    Elisa - LaoTze quote - thanks for reminding us of that!

    Old English quote
    "those that can, do: those that can't, teach"

    How very true

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    "We are the ones we have been waiting for."
    from the Poem for South African Women by Jones, June:
    http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/poem-for-south-african-women/

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    Originally Posted by Raddy
    "A child's intellect is shown not so much in what he knows but in the questions he asks"
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    I really like this one and think that it does a good job of pointing out the flaws in the way the U.S. ids kids as gifted which relies a lot on what the child knows (high achievement).

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    "loving challenge is an acquired taste, so if we don't challenge everyone in school, then we lose the chance for folks to find out if they are some of the ones who enjoy challenge."
    Grinity

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