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    colorpro #71686 03/17/10 10:12 AM
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    I would say YES by looking at the DYS requirements for grade 4. I think that those ARE qualifying scores.


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    We are in Duke Tip. They posted the average scores for 4th/5th grade talent search last year. They are:
    Composite 17
    English 17
    Math 16.1
    Reading 16.3
    Science 17

    So those scores look good! smile

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    We are new to test and our DD9 appeared NUMATS in February. Have they started to send scores for February test already?

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    Received EXPLORE testing results today - tested with NUMATS in January. There is hope, they are arriving!

    colorpro #71694 03/17/10 11:48 AM
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    Colorpro -

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    We took the test through Numats and got the results today. Here are the scores for my 4th grade DS

    Composite 18
    English 17
    Math 16
    Reading 19
    Science 18

    Are these scores good as compared to other 4th graders who took thetest? Just wondering


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    We are in Duke Tip. They posted the average scores for 4th/5th grade talent search last year. They are:
    Composite 17
    English 17
    Math 16.1
    Reading 16.3
    Science 17

    So those scores look good!

    Duke TIP tests only 5th and 6th graders on Explore. They call it the "4th and 5th Grade Talent Search" because they start to identify kids in 4th and 5th. So, those averages probably refer to 5th and 6th graders who took the test, not 4th and 5th graders. Confusing, huh?

    These do look like DYS qualifying scores to me, too. Congrats!

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    Ours arrived! Yay!


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    We got our NUMATS January Explore results for our 4th grade twins today, too. Dd has always been more "out there" than ds, so the differences aren't too surprising.

    DD:
    Composite 23
    English 20
    Math 22
    Reading 23
    Science 25

    DS:
    Composite 20
    English 22
    Math 19
    Reading 14
    Science 23

    Okay, so now that we know that our 4th grade dd is in the 99th percentile for 8th graders, any advice on what to do about it?

    ... Our original motivation in doing Explore was ammunition when the school starts deciding next year who goes in the advanced math classes in middle school. This is a tracking system where if you don't get into the advanced class from the get-go, you are stuck in a lower track through high school. I was afraid they wouldn't put her in the advanced math because she has a habit of saying she doesn't like math (while ds thinks he is a math genius!). So we have a solid math score for her now, but I'd also welcome other ideas on how to support her from those of you with more experience.


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    amylou- amazing scores! sorry I can't help. I just wanted to mention your kids have qualifying scores for DYS, just incase you did not know. I was wondering if you received good advice on your report? (I will be getting scores for the first time)

    Good Luck with your advocacy.

    PS. You might research old Explore threads while your waiting for more advice.

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    Thanks, Gratified3, for the advice on ACT/SAT. I haven't given those tests a moment's thought until now, and will look into them for next year. And I am also interested in the talent search online resources for planning based on Explore scores. I will check that out. Best of luck in getting your own scores

    Math advocacy as a reason for testing has turned out to be a bit of a moot point for us, at least for the moment. To their credit, the school (garden variety public school) decided to go ahead with the middle school math screening for both our 4th grade kids this year, even though they normally do it in 5th grade. (And a friend of mine with a college degree in math had me all worked up last fall because she was having her 5th grade dd tutored in math to prepare for this screening. I guess I won't need to spend next year worrying about whether to get a math tutor!) That screening is scheduled for this week, so now I can shift my impatience to waiting for those results, now that the Explore results are in!

    We did do Explore for a couple of reasons in addition to math advocacy. Ds does not handle time constraints well, and the Explore was good practice for him. I can just see him getting DQ'ed from the SAT as a high school senior because he refuses to put his pencil down when the time is up.... Also, we are thinking of pulling the kids out of school for a month or two next fall to travel - these scores relieve any guilt that they'll be missing anything critical.

    And, for what it is worth, although their scores are strong, my kids are *old* 4th graders compared to many on this forum. Having never been skipped and with December birthdays, they were already 10yo when they took Explore. We have chosen not to push for skips this far - it is generally not done around here, although I think we could have convinced them. Our kids currently love pretty much everything about their school/class right now, so we don't want to rock the boat. Plus, student/teacher ratio will skyrocket when they hit middle school, making opportunities in the present setting better for differentiating instruction.

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