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Hi again,
DS 7:11 had these scores on MAP testing at a local public school. I homeschool him.

Math 209
Language 216
Reading 211
(math score is low due to previous testing that same day - he got tired)

recent SCAT: Verbal 443
Math 452

recent WISC-IV testing total 145+
WJ-III to follow

He just completed homeschool third grade and we are considering skipping forth grade. Any wisdom that we could consider? We are trying very hard to process all of this new data. We expected him to "level off after third grade" as the saying goes...and apparently he didn't. I appreciate your time.

welcome ccasa! That is a lot to process...what kind of curricula do u use now? Is it where you buy the whole year at once? have you heard of DI/PI model? the MAP test can tell you what Math to teach next. Call t#9hem up and ask for some help,ok? Welcome grinity

I do not know what the DI/PI model is. Can you explain? Thank you for your response.

I don't know how the SCAT numbers fall but here's the MAP comparison to national norms:
http://pickens.it.schoolfusion.us/m...ssionid=14d1e9266e4482d198ebc39c6e6bc9c3
Math RIT 209: end of 3rd 70%; end of 4th 42%
Language RIT 216: end of 3rd 90%; end of 4th 675%
Reading RIT 211: end of 3rd 81%; end of 4th 61%

I think this is what Grinity was referring to:
diagnostic testing prescriptive instruction described in Developing Math Talent
DTPI

This learning ladder for MAP RIT scores can help you get ideas for what he's ready to learn next.
http://www.powayusd.com/projects/edtechcentral/lladder/Default.asp

Are you looking to continue homeschooling or skip into a public or private school?

Thank you for that information. I will continue to homeschool, and yes, I typically buy a "package" of math and languages arts for a particular grade. DS is disciplined and self learning with this method.

I guess I am trying wrap my mind around what is means to go "faster, broader, deeper" in various subjects. We already do the broad approach, and since he is a fluent reader he goes as deep as he wishes on any topic. It's the faster that scares me. But I feel some form of acceleration is needed based on my research, his attitude, and recent testing.

Maybe I just need someone to pat me on the head and tell me it will be okay whatever we decide.

lol ... You will be ok no matter what because you are observing your child and trying to give what he needs. thanks inky thats what i mean to say. math really lends itself to faster until algebra and they you can go deeper with online classes like Art of Problem Solving. You can introduce more subjects such as aditional languages or programing or engineering

Here's another pat on the head and affirmation that it will be okay because you are a responsive parent. Having the flexibility to customize the pace is one of the major benefits of homeschooling. Give yourself permission to take advantage of it!

My homeschooled 7 year old has similar MAP scores: Math 226, Reading 205, Language 212. We haven't done other testing. He is officially accelerated one year because he did kindergarten during the summer between leaving special ed preschool (he had language delays) and starting kindy at home. I don't plan on accelerating him officially any further, but rather just teaching at his level. Here's what we are doing with him next year.

Spelling Power: Rather than using their method, we are using the lists and inputting them into SpellQuizzer for practice.

Michael Clay Thompson: Grammar Island/Practice Island, Music of the Hemispheres (poetry), Building Language (vocabulary), Sentence Island (reading it only)

IEW: This will be our primary writing curriculum. Sentence Island, mentioned above, is supplemental because I like the way IEW has very specific and clear expectations.

Math: Math-U-See Epsilon, Zeta, and Prealgebra. He has completed all previous levels on an accelerated pace (he's a math kid). He's already teaching himself most of the Epsilon and Zeta level material so he'll just do the test book. I'll save the workbook for his sister to use. We'll also be supplementing MUS with Math Olympiad Contest Problems for Elementary and Middle Schools from AoPS because MUS is lacking in problem solving.

History: Story of the World with supplemental library books and some activities/crafts/projects/field trips to enrich

Science: Apologia Astronomy and Flying Creatures with supplemental library books and some activities/experiments/crafts/projects/field trips to enrich

Logic: Perplexors 4th-6th grade level. I'll get the regular chart style, venn diagram, and math books. We'll do these together as a team...DS, DD and I.

Foreign Language: He's requesting Korean so he and daddy will do Rosetta Stone as my husband has reason to learn Korean as well.

Literature: Various classic choices, usually related to history, science, or field trips (ie. reading a book that goes with an upcoming play). I'll use Teaching the Classics to help me know how to discuss the books better. I also allow my kids to read whatever they wish, trying to steer them to higher reading levels, when I can.

He'll also have cursive practice and I'm teaching both drawing techniques using the Draw Squad.

I don't know if this will help any but I know it helped me to see what curriculum others were using when I first realized my daughter needed more/different work.

No kidding! His MAP score is >99% for Grades 1 and 2, 97 % for Grade 3, 85% for Grade 4, 65% for Grade 5, and 52% for Grade 6. Wowsa!

It's neat to see how you can meet his asynchronous needs by homeschooling!

Inky, that's why we went the homeschooling route. We knew that our school district was unwilling to accommodate either of my kids' needs.