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    #42773 03/25/09 07:30 PM
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    As you can see by my display name, this is all very new to me and my wife, so we are very happy that we found this resource today during our 'Googling'. To make a long story short, we took our DS6 (I'm learning the abbreviations- is there a Glossary somewhere?) to a psychologist today whose specialized services include gifted testing. DS took the WISC IV test and scored a 156 (scores below). As the Dr. explained this to us in detail my wife and I experienced a number of emotions - pride, shock, awe, fear, confusion, etc. There are so many resources out there and we are just getting started down this road, I was hoping we could get some direction on what we should be doing. I can tell you what we are currently doing:
    - updated DS's Kindergarten teacher (she is reaching out to the school gifted program coordinator; some initial discussions around skipping 1st grade next year)
    - begin researching local private gifted schools and planning visits (not sure if it is financially feasible, but we want to understand the options)
    - apply to the DYS program?

    Questions:
    - should we schedule other tests to confirm these results?
    - should we try to get him in private school? Or, will our school district gifted program be sufficient to provide what he needs?

    Thanks in advance, it's great to know this resource is here for us. Any and all input is welcome.

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    VCI 132 (15,16,15) 98%
    PRI 147 (19, 15, 19) 99.9%
    WMI 150 (19, 19, 19) >99.9%
    PSI 133 (15, 17) 99%
    FSIQ 156 >99.9%

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    Welcome, you've come to the right place. I'm pretty new here too and have found it to be great smile
    I'll let others with more experience help answer your questions though.

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    Wow! Those are truly amazing scores. You may want to ask the school to do achievement testing. That way you can get the required achievement test data for DYS and the administration will understand that your son is way beyond K.

    Either way you may want him to take the PS end of 1st+ grade test. I would think 2nd and up would be even better.

    I would look into the gt school and also see what your PS has to offer. It may be really difficult to find a good fit for such a gifted boy. Chances are the gt school is geared more towards MG children and one grade skip in PS won't solve anything.

    You definitely want to apply to DYS. The long application and the additional testing or portfolio is worth it.

    Good luck



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    Thanks everyone for the quick responses and the sound advice. I appreciate the suggestions on the achievement testing, we will absolutely follow up with the PS on those tests. I will get the application process started ASAP for DYS. If we visit a gt school, do we ask them what levels they are best fit for? I think a lot of difficult decisions are headed our way...but, we are very excited for our DS, too!

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    As to your other questions...

    Does this score line up with what you and your DW see in your child? Does it make sense to you given what you know about your child? If so, there's probably no need to retest.

    The only other test you might need is an achievement test, since it doesn't appear that he took one, right? DYS usually requests both an IQ and an achievement test, though you could try to apply with a portfolio instead. The worst you're likely to hear is "We need achievement test scores before we can respond yes or no," so you wouldn't be out anything but time.

    As for the school situation: all kids--and schools...and teachers...--are different. Some kids do very well in a public school setting, provided appropriate adaptations are made as needed...and all HG+ kids have different needs.

    Some HG+ kids just don't do well in public school. Period.

    Some schools/teachers just won't bend to suit the needs of an HG+ child.

    Flexibility and teamwork from both school and parent seem to be the best keys to whether public school will work or not for an HG+ child. If the school wants to work with you, then it's probably smart to let them. Research your options, of course, but it's hard to beat a free education if it can be made to suit your child's needs.

    Some GT programs are very good; some are not sufficient, even when used in conjunction with a grade skip or subject acceleration. You'll have to examine the needs of your child and the actual benefits the program will offer to see if those will line up for him.

    I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm not being much help. I'm sure "It depends" is not what you were hoping to hear. smile But the fact is that too much depends upon the personality of your child, his interests and specific needs, as well as the actual day-to-day happenings in the classroom. A great teacher can make an HG+ child purr along happily with nothing more than differentiation. A lousy teacher who has a chip on his/her shoulder about GT kids can kill the soul of even the best-laid plans.

    One suggestions: if you're considering private and public school, you might also consider homeschooling. No pressure. But it is another option that a number of us have had some success with. If nothing else, it's nice to know about all your options in case you run into trouble down the road.

    Welcome to the journey! laugh


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    Sorry! I wrote too much, so we crossposted! blush


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    Originally Posted by Kriston
    One suggestions: if you're considering private and public school, you might also consider homeschooling. No pressure. But it is another option that a number of us have had some success with. If nothing else, it's nice to know about all your options in case you run into trouble down the road.

    LOL Kriston. I didn't want to be the first one to suggest it wink I must admit that lately homeschooling comes to my mind as the first solution when kids or parents run into problems in schools. I usually don't say so but it's quite often my first reaction. I guess that's the result of a year of homeschooling smile


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    Kriston - thank you so much for taking the time to post your thoughts; especially on the private/public school topic - great insight.

    We have thought for some time that he was 'gifted' even know we didn't really know what it meant. To be honest, we were kind of floored when the DR. reviewed the results with us, but at the same time we were relating what the Dr was saying to our experiences with DS.

    Homeschooling...that might be a stretch wink I'm not sure we could pull that off smile

    Thanks again!


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    I remember how shocked I was when my very *normal* pediatrician in my very (VERY) conservative town suggested homeschooling DS, who was then 15mos., I think. Oh, was I ever shocked! "But, but...we're so NORMAL!" LOL!

    So I like to lay the idea out there gently. It's just nice to know that it's possible and that NORMAL people do it. laugh


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