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My son was recently identified as PG according to our school district. He was given the DAS as that is the standard test used in our district. Although he was only 5 and the test is for 7-12 year olds he did very well. They also gave him a couple of other talent assessments etc.
Because of his age I had never had him tested. Based on the results of these tests, I want to apply for the YS program. I spoke to someone on the phone and they told me to go ahead and submit what I had. That after review, I would probably be asked to submit additional documentation.
Has anyone else been through this? Do you have any ideas as to what the additional documentation might be. Should I go ahead and have him take the SB-5? (he turned 6 last week). Are the results of the various test wildly different?
Shari
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He was about 6-8 weeks shy of his 6th birthday. DAS_II was what he took, then the results were normed for his age.
Shari
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I think the additional documentation would be specific to your DS's situation. If you apply and they ask for additional documentation, you can always call them and ask what type of additional documentation is best. For us, the initial referral was to the portfolio portion of their website, which now reads: A portfolio with three original pieces of the applicant�s work that demonstrate his/her advanced precocity. In order for the Applications Review Committee to best assess the applicant�s abilities, please submit work that showcases your child�s academic areas of strength. The Committee prefers to see independent work that is 2 to 3 grade levels above age peers and work completed without the assistance of teachers or parents. Some of the most informative samples have included intellectual activities the applicant has completed just for fun, such as math �doodles�, creative writing, or autonomous projects. DVD/videotape recordings demonstrating your child�s academic abilities may also be included. Please briefly describe each item, including the applicant�s age and grade level at the time of completion, as well as the circumstances of the work (i.e. if it was completed independently, as part of a school project, how many times the work was revised, etc.), so the Review Committee is able to view it in the context in which it was completed. This language has changed since we submitted our additional materials this past July. This is actually easier for me to understand. The old language referred to a theory of learning - can't remember what it was called (maybe Bloomberg? Taxonomy?). The gist of it was to show the ability to synthesize, analyze and create new ideas based on knowledge rather than demonstrate rote knowledge. Something like that. Good luck!
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I would at the very least get achievement testing done. Use one of the tests from the DYS list. Perhaps the school would be willing to do WJ-III or WIAT. I think it's very unlikely he would get accepted without a single required test.
Quite a few people on this board have their kids in DYS, me included. Most of the time people apply with both IQ and achievement test that are listed in DYS requirements.
Good luck
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If the score on the test he took is 99.9 percentile (though not listed), you might be able to use that and portfolio method if you've got some good stuff. We did portfolio two months ago and included two home videos, a few school work samples (he's accelerated in math and reading) and a few brainy-type doodles. Ds6 did have qualifying+ achievement testing (WIAT) and a *really* close IQ from their listed tests ... but he'd been turned down last year on the testing alone. PM me if you want more info on what we included in ds6's portfolio.
If they want to see more testing, they'll ask for it. May as well try portfolio method if you don't feel you need the testing for anything else -- though achievement testing can be really helpful for educational planning.
Good luck!
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Hi BWBShari,
We went through a very similar situation last year. DD wasn't 6 yet, so the psych. gave her DAS instead of the WISC-IV. Her score on that was quite high, but I didn't know how it related to a FSIQ. Fortunately for us, when the school psych. learned we were applying to DYS, she set it up so DD could be tested on the WISC-IV and WIAT-II so we didn't have to submit a portfolio, which is what Davidsons told me I would need to submit along with the DAS scores. Personally, if you have the ability to do additional testing, I recommend it over having to put together a portfolio.
I can't comment on the SB-V, but I can tell you that her results on the DAS and WISC-IV were very similar:
DAS:
Verbal-151
Non-Verbal Reasoning-152
Spacial-144
General Conceptual Ability (GCA)-160
WISC-IV:
Verbal-152
Perceptual Reasoning-151
Working Memory-150
Processing Speed-136
FSIQ-157
Good luck with the application process!
Ruby
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Along with the DAS-2, he was also given the WJ test of achievement, WJ test of cognitive ability, and the Torrance test of creativity. I submitted the results of those as well. He scored in the 99.9% on all of his testing except for the spatial abilities portion of the testing. His spatial scores were thrown out of the averages because of what the diagnostician referred to as an unusually high creativity level which led him to recreate his patterns in dramatic fashion. Because of this he ran out of time continously. She also noted that he insisted on building all of the patterns upside down, so that they would look correct to her rather than himself. Between the elaboration and building everything upside down, he kept failing due to time constraints. The diagnostician noted on his testing that she had no doubt that his spatial scores would be as high as his other scores if he was given a test that wasn't timed and recommended the SB-5.
Shari
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Well then, good luck! Sounds great. I look forward to reading good news in a month or so. 
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That's great that he was tested on WJ-III too. In that case you are probably all set. It's for sure worth submitting as is. Good luck!
Ruby, those are impressive scores!
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