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    Solution by DS8.

    This was DS8's "train of thought":-

    He first listed out the info up to #23 and saw the pattern which was:

    No. of people <=> Best Seat
    1 <=> 1
    2 <=> 1
    3 <=> 3
    4 <=> 1
    5 <=> 3
    6 <=> 5
    7 <=> 7
    8 <=> 1
    9 <=> 3
    10 <=> 5
    11 <=> 7
    12 <=> 9
    13 <=> 11
    14 <=> 13
    15 <=> 15
    16 <=> 1
    17 <=> 3
    18 <=> 5
    19 <=> 7
    20 <=> 9
    21 <=> 11
    22 <=> 13
    23 <=> 15
    : :
    : :


    He noticed that when the # of pple is 4, 8 16 .... the best seat would be 1 (the first seat). He then associated them with the power of 2s.

    He also noticed that the increment for each cycle is by 2. Eg. [1] [1,3] [1,3,5,7] [1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 ....] This is the part when he thought that there should be a {times 2} in his formula.

    Since he didn't know how to "write out" a formula, I told him to describe to me. He started with :-

    1) "Find the difference between the no. of pple (n) and the closest power of 2 which is less than n"

    2) Then multiply by 2

    3) Add 1 (this "1" according to him is to add back the 1st seat)

    After making him explained to me like 100x , he wrote down the formula... (He can't wait to go play his lego!)

    1+(n-2^) x 2
    (where the power of 2 is denoted by 2^)


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    Another solution by a 11yo boy...(posted by his mom)

    n = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, ......
    nth term = [1][1,3][1,3,5,7][1,3,5,7,9,...][1,....]

    The [1,3,5...] sequence would normally have this formula: 2n-1

    Now, the sequence restarts when a binary number is reached.

    eg for the 3rd interval
    n=4,5,6,7
    nth term=[1,3,5,7]

    What needs to be done is to convert this n so that it starts at 1, and the formula 2n-1 can be used. To do that, we'll need to subtract n by the closest binary number that's smaller than n and add 1.

    In this 3rd interval, the binary number is 4, so apply the formula (n-2^)+1

    n=4,5,6,7 becomes
    n=1,2,3,4 after we subtract n by 4 and add 1
    we can now apply the earlier formula 2n-1 to get the nth term that we wanted.

    So what we're doing is.
    2((n-2^)+1)-1
    --> 2(n-2^)+2-1
    --> 2(n-2^)+1


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    Originally Posted by CFK
    Originally Posted by Dottie
    Fun, fun! Thanks for sharing!

    Now see this just goes to show you, there are two types of people in the world: those who describe something like this problem as "fun, fun", and those of us who just ran away screaming from it.

    LOL!

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    Originally Posted by CFK
    Originally Posted by Dottie
    Fun, fun! Thanks for sharing!

    Now see this just goes to show you, there are two types of people in the world: those who describe something like this problem as "fun, fun", and those of us who just ran away screaming from it.

    U are so right!!! LOL And perhaps she will say...."More please???" grin

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    at least two types! smile My solution was to sit under the table.

    I will ask ds; he might enjoy this!

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    Originally Posted by Cathy A
    Originally Posted by Austin
    Its a good thing he picked every 2nd suitor. With some combinations, he just goes around and around the table.

    The way I understood the problem, the emperor ignores those who are already dead and continues his elimination method on the remaining suitors.

    What if he has 13 suitors and picks every 7th one? That is what I meant.


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    I still don't see a correct solution for any number of suitors and any number of steps.

    laugh


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    Originally Posted by ienjoysoup
    my solution: forget the girl, get up and run!
    wink

    yeah, that would be my solution smile

    DH's solution: check if my ammunition is enough to kill all the others ....

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    Originally Posted by chris1234
    at least two types! smile My solution was to sit under the table.

    I will ask ds; he might enjoy this!

    what about killing the emperor first?

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