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    #245120 03/26/19 11:06 AM
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    Hello all! Before I list my results, I want to establish a bit of a background.

    I am a twenty year old male who struggled substantially in school. I have vivid memories that chronicle every stage of my educational past, and a recurring theme was an unwavering feeling of isolation (I will note that this feeling of isolation was internal, and to the passive observer I certainly appeared to be adept socially) All throughout my childhood I was consumed by obsessions, and I remember my earliest being the art of illusion and telekinesis. In 7th grade I was interested in web development and created a website with flash minigames and a forum for discussion; many students used it during school hours and to my dismay,the school eventually blocked it! Currently I am interested in music and have been for the last 5 years (music theory and historical music, specifically music spanning baroque to romantic). I have composed close to 40 works of my own. I never liked the structured environment of school and as a result, I have sat through many long hours of detention fidgeting in my chair (one time the seat melted from the fidget induced friction lol). My school didn't have a very good gifted program from what I recall but I wasn't identified regardless. I forgot to mention, I was highly disorganized and forgetful. AlsoItalkfasterthanthespeedoflight.

    Fast forward ---zoom; I am in the military and I have not attended college. Recently I've been wondering if I would be considered gifted (my self esteem sort of low because I haven't accomplished anything SIGNIFICANT) and if so, to what extent. Being that I'm married, living on my own, and more financially stable than ever I took the WAIS IV. My results were:

    VCI: 150
    PRI: 131
    WMI: 119
    PSI: 114
    FSIQ:140

    I was shocked! I thought my FSIQ would be around 120, but never as high as it apparently is...

    How could I have never been identified? Did I miss out on valuable resources? I feel confused and maybe even cheated. I do blame myself partially because my past is riddled with feats of my immaturity.

    I intend to go to college after the completion of my contract so I can use the GI bill.

    I highly appreciate your time! Thanks!


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    Welcome!

    You may find, as you have more encounters with GT adults, that some aspects of your youthful experience are not uncommon. There are a few notable features of the profile you've described:

    1. You are clearly extremely capable intellectually, especially in the verbal domain. It is not uncommon for the WMI and PSI to be a bit lower than the VCI and PRI in GT individuals, as those are considered efficiency skills, rather than reasoning skills (with the exception of the Arithmetic portion of the WMI, which is a bit of a mixed measure); yours are strong enough not to be considered particularly striking weaknesses.

    2. That being said, one does wonder whether you have some executive function weakness (such as is found in ADHD) overlaying the behaviors that may be more purely GT in origin. If so, that would be appropriately described as a twice exceptional (2e) profile, where exceptional strength is accompanied by one or more notable deficit areas. I should also note that, in my experience, the military is enriched for individuals with at least some component of the profile that might be considered ADHD, for various reasons related both to the supportive scaffolding of the military life, and the neurocognitive assets such individuals bring to effective military service. A possible 2e might be part of the story of why you were not identified as GT during K-12 education.

    3. I beg to differ with your characterization of yourself as not having accomplished anything significant. You appear to have taught yourself many interesting skills, across a wide range of fields. You maintain a stable adult relationship. You are self-supporting, independent, and in a productive and honorable profession, serving your country, and representing the ideals of a free society.

    And as to how you may view this additional information you have obtained about yourself: If you recognize that your past includes feats of immaturity, then you have the insight and self-reflection to have learned from those experiences, which means they were not wasted--they are part of the growth process that has formed the valuable, responsible person you are today.

    I wouldn't expend too much energy regretting the resources you may have missed out on--quite often, they are of limited utility for someone in your cognitive range. You note yourself that the GT program wasn't very good, anyway.

    I think you should be proud of what you have done with yourself, and of the maturity that has allowed you to think about how you can be responsible with who you are moving forward.


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