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Ok. I've done a lot more research to understand what is going on with The Mite.
One of his subtests in the VCI on the WISC IV was at the ceiling (17 on comprehension). Another was near the ceiling (16 on vocab) and the last was 15. From what I understand, the vocab and similarity subtests were both administered after a PRI subtest that involved fine motor skills. So, it is quite possible he would have been at the ceiling on all of them, but was tired or stressed from the fine motor work. The test was administered in more than one session.
So, questions
...are the results on the PRI valid if there is a fine motor disability (dyspraxia/dysgraphie)?
...is it appropriate to use the WISC IV to assess a child with dyspraxia/dysgraphia?
...is it reasonable to get The Mite assessed with a Standford Binet LM if he didn't hit the ceiling on the two other verbal subtests?
...where can we get a SBL-M done? I've called several neuropsychs. here in MN and none have access to the SBL-M
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I don't know where in MN you are, but if I could pick anywhere in the US to get my child evaluated with a SBLM type test, I would go to http://www.educationaloptions.com/contact.htm Dr.Deb Ruf of Educational Options in MN! She administers the SMV and has worked on how to get LM style scores from it. (To the best of my understanding) Good Luck Trinity
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the most recent Stanford Binet is #5 (I think they call it SBV, actually) I believe Dr. Ruf was the author about how to use the SBV to get a SBLM type score. DS9 has had the WISC III, two years ago, and WISC IV this January, and yeah, he's got several 17 and up subtests. I hadn't thought about getting him SBLB or SBV....but Lately I've been thinking that it's a good idea, as DH doesn't really seem to get just how gifted DS is - let alone the school.
Dottie - Welcome! Introduce yourself. Are you a connecticut girl too? I know that Dee Lovecki in RI gives SBLM.
Smiles - Trinity
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Goodness! What a blessing you are Trinity! I will contact that place tomorrow.
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((smile)) thanks Willa Please let me know how it turns out. Dottie - are you on the PG Parent's list? If that doesn't help you can contact me through the moderater. Love and More Love Trinity ![wink wink](/bb/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Hi- I contacted Ruf. However, due to a very negative experience with the neuropsych. eval at the U, we are going to take a break from testing. Mite is getting stressed out about it. So, we plan on proceeding only after a few months.
Now we need advice on test anxiety and perfectionism. He's got it bad bad bad. He told me after the np experience, "Mom they don't give me enough time to do it right. All that hurrying just messes me up."
He hates timed tests ever since he failed dismally over and over again last fall on the math drills in school.
suggestions welcome thanks
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Dottie,
I have some advice, first send a little "hello I'm new" type email to one of the lists that has a topic you are particularly interested in, especially if you have a question about your YS. Then sit back and wait for the hurricaine to start. If that doesn't work, check with Christyn Smith to be sure you are getting the emails.
Love and More Love, Trinity
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Dear Willa, I'm not sure about the $ end of things, but i would consider getting Dr. Ruf's printout of developmental milestones to start filling out, and you can ask Dr. Ruf to review the test results you already have, plus the sheets that you fill out and get "the first step" completed towards figuring out what is going on with your Mite.
Also, I suggest you start a new topic on perfectionism and timed tests as I know that they are big concerns for lots of gifted children.
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I'll off-list ya' if you try the parent's list, TE or pgclassroom. Apparently I didn't get enought time to play as a child, so I'm making up for it now - LOL! Smiles - trin
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Hi Trinity, I have a hard time figuring out when someone's posted answers to my posts. Hence the delay. Those are excellent suggestions. I'll post that now.
I contacted Ruf. It's $1000 for the testing. I just quit my job, but plan on getting another soon. As soon as I do, that's the first thing we will do.
In the meantime, we've applied to be part of the Belin Blank 2E study. Are you familiar with that?
Is there a way to set these lists to email?
Willa
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No. The study is in Iowa City, Iowa...about 7 hours from us. But, they only give a $100 stipend and a hotel room when you go down for the eval. However, the eval is completely free and THAT is a huge payoff.
Check into it. It's part of the IDEA Javits program.
Just put Belin Blank Javits Twice Exceptional into Google and it will pop up.
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Have you google Javits Grants to see if there is anyone in your area doing studies?
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Willagayle - Sounds wonderful! Best wishes - Trinity
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Well, darn! He was turned down for the Javits study because we live out of state. Funny thing is I was given a full phone interview and was asked where I lived. So, obviously they haven't trained their screeners well.
We're back to square one! sigh.
I'm going to go to Deborah Ruf as soon as we can scrape together $1000 for her minimum upfront.
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Willa Gayle - sorry the Javits study didn't work out. good luck with the "scraping" - hopefully it will be perfect with Mites readiness to "do again." meanwhile buy Ruf's book - losing our minds and see if you like her on that level.
I also think you can download a developmental milestone sheet that you can start filling out - much easier to do if you don't have the pressure of an appointment set. I myself can't remember any of that stuff - sad to say.
Smiles - Trinity
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Ah! That's a good idea! Will do!
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