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Fair point, Val, and as a technologist who devours history and current events, I couldn't agree more. The Inc article did talk about the need for collaboration and communication in STEM, and that part was spot-on. In fact, this bit sounds a lot like that hiring search my company recently conducted, which I mentioned here: In fact, Taso Du Val, CEO of Toptal, an outsourcing firm that focuses on the world's most elite technology talent told me that when his company evaluates programmers, they not only look at technical skills, but put just as much emphasis on communication skills, initiative and teamwork. Not sure how being a poet helps, though. 
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As we've established that a large component of ability is genetically pre-determined, talent is relatively blind to economic starting conditions. (For follow-on responses to my post: let's agree to set some of the tired social Darwinist tropes to rest, please.) You don't get to dictate what viewpoints others express on a forum, and it is not polite to use pejoratives to label their views. I think the parts of your sentence are contradictory, since intelligent parents tend to earn more and also to have more intelligent children. And this is exactly why the gifted lobby has difficulty gaining mainstream traction. If we're tone deaf to the needs of society at large and expound a fatalistic view of social class, our perspectives are viewed as elitist and wrong-headed, and subsequently ignored, however much merit gifted parent advocates' arguments may hold. We are here in service of our own children, to be sure. But, more importantly, we are contributing to a discussion intended to forward the broader interests of those gifted children who lack a parental voice in their corner. And, though we may differ in our views as to the degree to which environment versus genetics drives ability, that we agree that environment plays at least a significant minority role necessitates a discussion of how to move the needle on environment, which is the subject of this thread. So yes, I will reiterate my pre-emptive general request that we, as a community, not allow this thread to devolve as so many others before it have. But I thank you for pointing out a missing word in my earlier post which would cause confusion--"a large component of ability is not genetically determined." That was my error.
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As we've established that a large component of ability is genetically pre-determined, talent is relatively blind to economic starting conditions. (For follow-on responses to my post: let's agree to set some of the tired social Darwinist tropes to rest, please.) You don't get to dictate what viewpoints others express on a forum, and it is not polite to use pejoratives to label their views. I think the parts of your sentence are contradictory, since intelligent parents tend to earn more and also to have more intelligent children. She asked politely. I don't know why it's beyond you to show a little respect. Your views have certainly been afforded more respect than they genuinely deserve. Be kind. Bostonian cannot help being Bostonian.
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I keep wanting to comment on the original topic, but whenever I get around to thinking up what I have to say, the website is down! For those who were missing a rubric with the new mastery transcript: there is one on http://www.mastery.org/a-new-model/ . Only it won’t clear things up much, because (according to the organisation) it only “captures our best thinking for now”,and finalising it is what they exist for, and there will be “no standardisation of content”. Every school gets to invent their own performance areas, rubric etc. Right. Still not sure what your job is, then, but if that is you best thinking for now, I am not impressed. So a school is supposed to certify mastery of, a long other stuff, “develop flexibility, agility, and adaptability”, “bring a sense of courage to unfamiliar situations”, “sustain an empathetic and compassionate outlook”. Oh look, there is content, too. Students might show mastery of “understanding traditional and emerging topics in maths, science, technology, environmental sciences, robotics, fractals, cellular automata, nanotechnology and biotechnology”. Wow. Just wow. I call DRIVEL. Makes me nostalgic for the good old times of “calculus: B”.
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I keep wanting to comment on the original topic, but whenever I get around to thinking up what I have to say, the website is down! For those who were missing a rubric with the new mastery transcript: there is one on http://www.mastery.org/a-new-model/ . Only it won’t clear things up much, because (according to the organisation) it only “captures our best thinking for now”,and finalising it is what they exist for, and there will be “no standardisation of content”. Every school gets to invent their own performance areas, rubric etc. Right. Still not sure what your job is, then, but if that is you best thinking for now, I am not impressed. So a school is supposed to certify mastery of, a long other stuff, “develop flexibility, agility, and adaptability”, “bring a sense of courage to unfamiliar situations”, “sustain an empathetic and compassionate outlook”. Oh look, there is content, too. Students might show mastery of “understanding traditional and emerging topics in maths, science, technology, environmental sciences, robotics, fractals, cellular automata, nanotechnology and biotechnology”. Wow. Just wow. I call DRIVEL. Makes me nostalgic for the good old times of “calculus: B”. Apparently admissions officers can click on the transcript to see examples of the students work (see link below. Schools develop a new type of transcript Sounds similar to the digital portfolios students are expected to submit by the Coalition for Access, Affordability and Success. Admissions Revolution
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