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    VR00 #229249 04/07/16 12:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by VR00
    Greenlotus if I understand right you expected your DD10 to do better than your DD12 on the test. Is that correct? I am not sure this would be the case. Unlike WISC the EXPLORE is not an IQ test but a knowledge test. So age and maturity probably have a major role to play.
    Yes, I was surprised that DD10 did not do better than DD12. While they are 14 mos. apart, DD10 has always outshone DD(just turned 12) on testing. Where I am not surprised though, is DD10 scoring higher than DD12 is on the reading section. You can just see DD10's depth in writing vs. her sister's. She also grasps reading concepts/info etc. much faster than her big sister (and BTW they are not biologically related so the old 10 points or less difference in the IQ of siblings is not valid here unless nurture is trumping nature!!). But, DD12 is definitely much more mature than DD10. Nor does she have to deal with any LD's.

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    Originally Posted by ConnectingDots
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    Given that your DD10 didn't want to take the test, her results may show that she wasn't that into it...

    My understanding is that it is normally taken by 8th graders at the start of the school year, so it would be two years above grade level (roughly) for a 6th grader.

    Right. This is where the grade skip plays a part. I am looking at my daughter's results as if she were still a young 5th grader whereas she is actually a 6th grader. But! She has been exposed now to 6th grade classes so she takes the test as a 6th grader. Sometimes I wish the elementary school could have accommodated her. Ugh. If I think about it I will get mad about her time in 4th grade when the teacher refused to give her challenging work. Grrrrrr.

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    Originally Posted by greenlotus
    Originally Posted by ConnectingDots

    Given that your DD10 didn't want to take the test, her results may show that she wasn't that into it...

    My understanding is that it is normally taken by 8th graders at the start of the school year, so it would be two years above grade level (roughly) for a 6th grader.

    Right. This is where the grade skip plays a part. I am looking at my daughter's results as if she were still a young 5th grader whereas she is actually a 6th grader. But! She has been exposed now to 6th grade classes so she takes the test as a 6th grader. Sometimes I wish the elementary school could have accommodated her. Ugh. If I think about it I will get mad about her time in 4th grade when the teacher refused to give her challenging work. Grrrrrr. [/quote]

    I understand. DS9 is in 4th but accelerated for math and reading/English (6th). So there's the way of thinking of his scores as those of a 9 year old, but truly, he's a 6th grader for most of what the class covers. In your case, I would think of how much time she has or hasn't had in 6th and balance your viewpoint accordingly. I'm not sure that it matters for the test what happened in 4th (although I certainly understand the frustration in general!).

    My guess is she had an off day when it came to the test or that it covered some things she's not as comfortable with yet, while your ODD had a better test day. Or perhaps your ODD's results show that her earlier assessments underrepresented her ability!

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    For those of you whose children took EXPLORE through BESTs, how long did it take to receive the interpretation guide by e-mail? We have not seen it yet and it's been more than a month.

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    Ours came almost two months after the test date, via email -- a link to the personalized guide, not in the mail. Hope yours didn't go to junk mail.

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    Hmm. We are a few weeks past two months now. I'd be surprised if it went in SPAM and I didn't catch it, as I use GMAIL and always check before permanently deleting. I think I should call!

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    It appeared yesterday! Now, to figure out what to do with the information. I'm pretty sure the net in some areas (ex. math) is he's not doing as well vs. age peers as his ability should allow him to perform. Or, he had a bad test day in some sections. Or, he hasn't had exposure (not enough enrichment) to some concepts.

    Confused. smile

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    Originally Posted by ConnectingDots
    Not DYS level (he is DYS) frown. I am interested to see what the talent pool results say. We were hoping that the scores would be high enough that advocacy would be easier if we move, especially if we need to try to get him into a gifted program. These don't seem to show DYS level work, particularly taking into account that he's in some 6th grade classes. Other standardized tests have been at the maximum scores (grade level-tests, though).

    Composite 18
    English 16 (92% in rhetorical, 61% in usage/mechanics...)
    Math 16
    Reading 18
    Science 20 (I think he said this was the hardest!)

    Am back on this topic as I'm trying to make sense of the BESTS talent search report. According to the Percentile Ranking tables, these scores range from 71%-95% (Science) and are a 92% composite vs. 4th graders who took the test. I'm thinking that means he is not performing (on this test) at a high level vs. his peers. His percentile rankings against 6th graders for English, Reading and Math range from 28-61% (he's accelerated in those classes). So what to make of all that?

    Is the sample skewed to DYS level kids?
    Did he have a bad testing day?
    Material he's covered doesn't match test?

    Color me confused. I was hoping this would provide clarity... but am still asking "What does this tell me?" frown

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